• TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Stealing a car takes way more effort than kidnapping a pet. I’d also bet that people have way more personal attachment to pets than cars because pets are beings with emotions and cars are not.

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      1 year ago

      What about windows? Should we ban that as they are easy for thieves to break?

      Whether you have more personal attachment to a car, a pet or anything else is a completely personal thing, everyone should have their choice.

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        1 year ago

        Almost nobody is attached to their windows. Most people treat pets as family members.

        If people stealing pets to consume them is a huge problem, then it makes sense to ban the consumption of pets because the benefits of the law outweigh the drawbacks on a society. People who eat dogs ““ethically”” can easily move on to other animals, and the people who continue to consume stolen pets can be punished more harshly, causing fewer people to steal pets. That law would be a net win because the good it does for pet owners vastly outweighs the bad it does for dog consumers.

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          1 year ago

          Why don’t you rob the richest people and share the money with the poorest? Or just ignore the interests of the minorities? Apparently, the good outweighs the bad based on your calculation.

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            Why don’t you rob the richest people and share the money with the poorest?

            We should. The opposite literally happens on a daily basis.

            Or just ignore the interests of the minorities?

            The US used to do that. It didn’t end well for anybody on multiple occasions. There’s a reason why US politics is so focused on civil rights, because the good outweighs the bad on a societal level.

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              We should. The opposite literally happens on a daily basis.

              99% percent of people can be much richer if we share the 0.1% richest people. This never happened. Besides, do you believe Robin Hood is allowed by law in modern society?

              The US used to do that. It didn’t end well for anybody on multiple occasions. There’s a reason why US politics is so focused on civil rights, because the good outweighs the bad on a societal level.

              Do you think what China does to Uyghurs, and what Russia does to LGBT is justified? Apparently, they believe the good outweighs the bad, only at the cost of a few people.

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                The CCP’s interests don’t always align with the wellbeing of Chinese people. The interests of Russia’s elite are even more divorced from the will of Russians.

                You’re bringing up counterexamples that I literally already refuted with previous examples. Slavery existed in the colonial US. The founding fathers put an end date on slavery because they knew it was a plague on society. People later on extended that date. Tensions rose until a civil war broke out. African Americans had more rights but weren’t equal. Unrest rose until lawmakers gave them more rights. Similar thing with women.

                Where in that paragraph do I state that genocide is good? Where do I support exploitation?

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                  Who determines whose interest is bigger? If you think you can determine that, how are you different from the CCP or the Russian elite? If you can’t, why do you say the interest of those who attach their feelings to a car, a window or a pig is not as important as those who attach their feelings to a dog?