• Dkarma@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    As soon as I see the term “assault weapon” all credibility goes right out the window.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not tho. Use specific terms and u don’t look like an incompetent fool.

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          Dismissing someone’s argument over semantics is trivial objection that doesn’t engage in the actual argument. You understand perfectly well what the argument is, and that it’s addressing a different issue than categories of armament.

          Plus, declaring your opponent an “incompetent fool” to dismiss their argument is a bonus ad hominem fallacy.

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      Don’t forget the fearsome “deadlier-than-military-weaponry, AR-15 style assault shotguns”

      I spent about two minutes trying to come up with a good joke about this one, but honestly I think it speaks for itself

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        What’s really funny is that the 12g built off the AR frame doesn’t actually qualify for the “assault weapon” description, so said AR-15 style assault shotgun is a greenlight.

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          They characterize semi-automatic shotguns like they’re this brand new, evil gun lobby invention, thought up to sell to crazed lunatics who can’t get their kicks just shooting regular bullets into school children any more

          Meanwhile, people have been shooting ducks with the Browning Auto-5 since literally the year 1900, and it only stopped production in 1998

          But that’s made of wood and doesn’t have the shoulder thing that goes up, so it’s not scary

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      1 year ago

      Would an attacher be any less credible if they murdered people with a handgun rather than a rifle ? what is the point you’re trying to make ? don’t people still die ? is the ammo type really relevant here ?

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        People who don’t like the term “assault rifle” think it basically means “scary-looking rifle” rather than “particularly deadly rifle”. In New York state law, for example,

        Assault weapon means a semiautomatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following characteristics: (1) a folding or telescoping stock; (2) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (3) a thumbhole stock; (4) a second handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (5) a bayonet mount; (6) a flash suppressor or muzzle break or muzzle compensator or a threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor or muzzle break or muzzle compensator; or (7) a grenade launcher.”

        So a semiauto rifle in .223 Remington with a wooden stock is a “varmit hunting rifle”, but simply giving it a black folding stock makes it an “assault rifle”.

        Honestly, things like NYS’s limits on magazine size makes more sense to me than banning telescoping stocks or a second pistol grip.

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        More “mass shootings” actually DO happen with hand guns, it’s just not part of the agenda the media wants to push.

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        1 year ago

        I didn’t say anything about ammo type. See this is the problem. You have no clue what you’re actually talking about here.