• finkrat@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    “Guy with shit circumstances decides to buy a gun and decides to go somewhere with the gun and decides to shoot undeserving people with the gun, it’s society’s fault”

    Way to blame the victim anon. No, this was his decision. I know folks who have life shitting all over them and it doesn’t make them want to kill children and families.

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      1 year ago

      It’s both. Even terrible people with something to lose are less likely to throw it all away.

      If this guy makes $35k a year at dollar general, he probably doesn’t go on a murder spree.

      But you could also just not be an asshole. Why go after random people instead of someone who actually helps cause the bullshit?

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        1 year ago

        You’re right, we should be targeting the bourgeois, aristocrats and ultra rich with our killing sprees. What we need are eco terrorists, not senseless killings.

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          1 year ago

          Fuck that. We don’t need terrorists at all.

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            1 year ago

            the guy wants “good” terrorist he advocates while wiping the doritos off his desk and washing down his everclear with sugar free juice.

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      Both apply. Yes, he ultimately chose to do it. However society shaped and funneled him into that position. It’s not a binary decision between individual and systematic, both can apply. In this case, social systems failed and put a large number of people in a bad situation with an apparent easy way out. Almost all then chose not to go on a killing spree. Unfortunately, “almost all” is “all”. Some will make the bad choice, when put in that position.

      As a society, we can’t change individual choices. What we can do however is change the framework those choices are made in. If we aim to put fewer people in that position, then fewer will make the wrong choice, and we will all be safer for it.

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      1 year ago

      You only said that some people have a lower threshold.

      You guys are groomed in social=bad.