• SCB@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      The point here is that civilians aren’t going to defeat the US military, full stop. Whether sane people have guns or fascists have guns, only the military matters

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          I think the more important point is that people form militias to protect themselves, and carrying a weapon means considering bad thoughts and being aware of them, the same way that an ex drug user or addict practicing abstinence consistently needs to exert a degree of self discipline.

          If you ask me, owning a gun just makes violent assholes have a shorter fuse. Think about it, have you ever carried a stick or a knife and thought that carrying it meant something? Now you can be more assertive, but the risk of accidentally shooting people or just flying off the handle and shooting someone suddenly becomes a real risk.

          A great test would be to give recent licensed gun owners three rubber bullets to use. When you get around to firing it after losing your shit you’ll know that you really lost your cool.

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          We absolutely had the military capability to wipe Vietnam and Afghanistan off the goddamn map and delete their populations and wildlife from existence if ordered to do so. The politicians back home said no, and made us withdraw. We have thousands of nuclear reentry vehicles standing ready, and we are trained to set condition 1SQ when ordered, no questions asked, without knowing the target package. I challenge you to survive a hundred Hiroshimas per warhead, times several thousand.

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            8 months ago

            See my other comments below. I’m not looking to have an argument about nuclear war with a nuclear submariner. When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail and whatnot.

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      8 months ago

      Military has equally as many progressives, moderates and centrists who absolutely will not tolerate these people. Source: I’m a submariner who works with nuclear weapons. You try something nutty, we can and will put your face into the concrete, no matter your political affiliation. Basics of the Personnel Reliability Program, the Command Managed Equal Opportunity Program, and Nuclear Weapons Security.