• MxM111@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Ukrainians disagree. And they are the ones that matter. If you want to live in slavery or without political rights, it is your choice, of course.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah, not only Ukraine, but pretty much every country that’s next to Russia.

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      1 year ago

      Well yeah, it’s up to them, but I don’t think they’re monolithic. They’ll eventually negotiate once they run out of men or weapons. I don’t think they’d be slaves if Russia captured Kyiv either. Perhaps without political rights, but that wasn’t much different than before.

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        1 year ago

        I think that’s exactly the point - they know how it was before, and they know how it can be by looking in neighboring EU.

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            1 year ago

            “Give me liberty or give me death”

            — Patric Henry

            “There are very few things worth dying for, liberty for yourself and for your loved ones is one of them”

            — MxM111

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                1 year ago

                That depends where you live, what your cultural upbringing is. If you are from Russia, sure. There, it is a myth, and democracy is something to scare people by.