• complacent_jerboa@lemmy.world
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    it’s not thousands of years of context. All this stuff dates back to, like, roughly the 1900s. Basically the British Mandatory period.

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      It actually started around 11 century BC, when Samson slaughtered more than 1000 Philistines (ancient Palestinians).

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        The Romans. Trajan sacked Jerusalem after a 5 month of siege to put out the Great Jewish Revolt (70CE). That’s when the Second Temple was destroyed. Trajan’s column shows Roman soldiers carting off a giant menorah in commemoration.

        Palestine is from the Latin for Philistia, the lands of another ancient Canaanite tribe.

        Shit’s old all around.

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          Oh? I didnt even know about the 1920s. I said 1947, I mean the state of Palestine website has maps of like “map of Palestinian homes in 1948” to show how they have been pushed away by Israeli settlers. So…1920s?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

          Is this the issue that you mean? I don’t know if I’ve even hears of this stage of Palestinian statehood.

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            This was around the period that Jewish immigration to the area picked up momentum. It’s where the whole situation really begins; the events set into motion that would, in time, lead to the civil war that eventually resulted in the Nakba, and Israeli independence.

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              Indeed. I’ve learnt more about the interwar period in this area since this all kicked off. Previously I’d though the Palestinian displacement was all post-WW2, but that’s just when it escalated massively and Israel’s statehood was declared.

              The British took control of the area post-WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire (Turks). Jewish immigration started in the following decade. This was already causing conflict, and there was a partition plan which the British (by my reading) were against. I think the British saw the forced displacement of people already there as something which they didn’t want to police. The plan went ahead and the British handed over control (Peace-out!). Then WW2 happened and migration soared for obvious reasons. The effect was more displacement, more enclaves, and the eventual creation of the nation of Israel, all whilst the Palestinians weren’t recognised as a nation of their own.

              A couple of brief wars with their neighbours later and Israel has grown again encircling Gaza. Fast forward through a ton of conflict to today.