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    What’s with all the dumb sidenotes? This reads like a 14 year old that’s mad at California, lol.

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    Did some low quality Wikipedia research for anyone unfamiliar:

    Basically this was a proposal from 2016 to split up CA on the basis that it’s large size made it ungovernable. Also of note some of the regions shown like Jefferson have a lower population than South CA and lean differently politically, due to this prospective Jeffersonians feel the current state imposes politically on them and that they’re not represented enough in the legislature. This measure failed to get enough signatures to get on the ballet.

    Cal 3, a three state solution was proposed in 2017. It received enough signatures to be on the ballet but the CA Supreme Court struck it off in 2018. Here’s the reasoning from the court:

    Significant questions have been raised regarding the proposition’s validity and because we conclude that the potential harm in permitting the measure to remain on the ballot outweighs the potential harm in delaying the proposition to a future election.

    Also of note Jefferson proposals typically also include parts of Oregon.

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      Was there any justification behind it being ‘ungovernable’?

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        It was because there are more liberals than conservatives statewide so the GOP couldn’t gerrymander the progressive rights away. This was not a bipartisan effort at all. It was to destroy the strength of California currently so the Republicans could win more elections.

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          Ding ding ding! This right here is what it all boils down to. It’s a flagrant power grab, and an attempt to disenfranchise people they don’t like.

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        It didn’t say but my assumption is that the idea was CA’s size and the way it is densely populated in urban centers has made it so rural area’s (Like most of proposed Jefferson) needs are largely ignored by state government.

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          What I don’t understand is how removing the tax revenue generated by the urban areas was supposed to make things better for the rural areas? These proposals always felt like memes that somehow got shoved into state legislation.

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            They want to go the way of the US south. Careening towards the bottom of every life quality metric, but feeling super free as the air whistles past your face. And politicians knowing that they won’t be alive when the splat occurs.

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            Maybe they feel the issue is more about allocation of funds either in the form of funds being disappropriately given to places like LA or just a disagreement around which departments and programs get how much.

            I could see CA letting go of maybe the Jefferson folk. But I agree that the idea of dividing into 3/6 states isn’t likely, and is probably a publicity thing.

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      Well hell, there’s more people in Los Angeles and environs who call where they live “SoCal” than in that whole greyblue section.

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    They keep tabling these stupid proposals, and the majority of the electorate keeps telling them to piss off. And rightly so. This would only weaken the state as a whole, which is exactly what the goal is. It’s nothing but a selfish power-grab by a small number of wealthy malcontents, with a bunch of rubes blindly following in their wake.

    If people who keep promoting these nonsense proposals don’t like California the way it is they should leave the state.

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      Victorville also home to the prestigious VFA, the world’s premier movie archive.

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    this is a dumb idea. I don’t think the idea of splitting up california for better senate representation is a bad one, this just aint it though.

    A good plan would probably separate the 3 major cities into their own states, but there would be a lot of complicating factors.

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    Lol, over half of “Silicon Valley” is just the Central Coast. To those that don’t know, it’s mostly farmland.