or even both if you want to play safe?

  • Shdwdrgn@mander.xyzEnglish
    1624·
    1 year ago

    Check out all the downvoters supporting terrorists… Not saying what Hamas did was appropriate, but when you’ve been treated like scum for 56 years and nobody in the world is willing to lend a hand, people are going to lash out any way they can. Take care of the Israeli terrorists first and the Hamas “problem” will simply go away.

    • WuTang @lemmy.ninjaOPEnglish
      917·
      1 year ago

      this is exactly what I was understating. all the so call lefty pro-life just demonstrated their true face. You don’t have to be from any border, the Isreali response is just inexcusable, not justifiable. bombing, cutting water, electricity, food (even in prisons) ?

      • Shdwdrgn@mander.xyzEnglish
        93·
        1 year ago

        Careful who you’re calling out, I’m not sure where you’re from but in the US the “pro-lifers” are on the extreme right with no concern over who is killed by their policies (as long as it’s not white men), while those on the left are the only ones I’ve ever heard who even give a damn about what’s happening in Palestine. Of course the US isn’t exactly known for its fair responses, hell the last time we were attacked we didn’t even retaliate against the right country.

          • Shdwdrgn@mander.xyzEnglish
            31·
            1 year ago

            My response was specifically to OP’s statement about pro-life people, and I was simply pointing out how things are viewed where I am from which might be vastly different from OP’s part of the world. If you want to take issue with that, then yes… in the US the people who call themselves “pro-life” are very much working against the health of the mothers and literally passing laws that are killing people. And every one of those laws are designed to take away the rights of women. Funny how when it involves a woman’s body they call it a “life”, but when one of those idiots jerks off it’s simply a clump of cells. And if you don’t believe this is not also a racial issue, then you haven’t been paying attention to how lop-sided these laws have been towards oppressing people of color. Take note that despite being an older white male myself, I still take great issue with the way this subject has been treated recently, and I feel the same way about how Israel has been oppressing Palestine, and the way Russia is attempting to oppress Ukraine.

            And no, none of this has any business being discussed under the current thread, but you had to make an issue of it instead of reading it for what it was – simply an attempt to clarify for OP how their wording might be taken differently depending on where they are, and an explanation of what that wording means here in the US.

        • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
          52·
          1 year ago

          If you’re running a prison, and the prisoners riot killing guards, killing the families of the guards, and you locked the prison down, not letting food, water, medicine inside. You’re killing the prisoners, the prisoners have no other ability to survive their dependent on food water and medicine coming in. You’re running the prison, you have obligations when you run a prison, even when the prisoners riot.

        • Reality Suit@lemmy.one
          22·
          1 year ago

          Because, in each and every country, it’s the inept and childish leadership that has ruined everything for us all. Israel’s government is corrupt. HAMAS are terrorists. How many governments are made up of the original native population from the region? Every country has been created by murdering the innocent.

                • Reality Suit@lemmy.one
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  My point was that the countries who are trying to be the good guy have at one point tried to kill off the native population. I’m not saying things are equal. Are you trying to say Israel was built on fear of existence? They aren’t being good neighbors. And Israel is a manufactured country by the “winners” of WW2. I’m not saying the jews are bad. I’m saying those that are in power are the ones fucking it up for the rest of us. There is no pure good entity. As humans, we are all animals. Some are disgusting animals. The ruling class are the problem. Until there are no classifications of higher or lower human, there will always be problems. Are we all equal in every way? No of course not. But we need to try to help the less fortunate until they are no longer less fortunate.