Yeah, actually, it is. Saying any significant fraction of the homeless population wants to be homeless is at BEST ignorant, and most likely a smoke screen to distract from the actual discussion. You’ve yet to provide any rebuttal than “I’ve seen homeless people who didn’t want housing!” And nothing supporting it.
Stop dancing around the fucking point. It isn’t as simple as just not wanting a home. It’s knowing they can’t fucking manage the expenses and responsibility that are deliberately attached to owning a home. It’s trying to own a home and failing.
Except it isn’t trying and failing. In some cases they don’t even know how to try. In other cases they can but only some of the times because they aren’t always mentally stable.
It sounds like you think homelessness is because of individual failings and that isn’t always the case.
You’re either trolling me or replying to the wrong person. I’m the person arguing it isn’t the result of individual decisions, in the face of people constantly telling me they’re just choosing to be homeless. I have never once said it’s the result of individual failings. I’ve been attacking the people that have.
Your last comment suggested these people were homeless because they couldn’t manage the expenses which sounds like you are suggesting it is a personal failure. If your intention is otherwise then it is because you communicated your beliefs poorly not because Im trolling you.
They are unable to manage it because our economy has deliberately made it unmanageable. I have been consistently arguing against blaming them for their problems.
Also, two are involved in communication, the speaker and listener. That’s two points of failure. I’m not the only one.
Because they don’t agree with society, or they don’t want to be chained down to one specific place. Some just want adventure. It is an enjoyment thing for them.
I actually traveled like that for a summer a few years ago… was one of the most exciting times of my life. I couldn’t do that shit for ever, though.
Some do, however. The permanent travelers, I think, weren’t very happy. Perhaps they felt they couldn’t afford to put roots down. I don’t know. But there are people who do travel full time like that.
It’s what you imply when you say they don’t want a home.
No it isn’t. That’s bullshit you are adding on your own.
Yeah, actually, it is. Saying any significant fraction of the homeless population wants to be homeless is at BEST ignorant, and most likely a smoke screen to distract from the actual discussion. You’ve yet to provide any rebuttal than “I’ve seen homeless people who didn’t want housing!” And nothing supporting it.
No it’s bullshit you are adding.
At least one of us is adding something to the conversation.
Sure, it isn’t. “I don’t want to” doesn’t stand on its own. “I don’t want to live in a house” implies that they prefer living outside of one.
You commented “So, you get my point. It isn’t just a desire to be on the street because they think it’s cool and fun.”
And it is the second sentence that I was referring to when I stated "I never said it was "
There are unhoused people who do not want to live in a house.
Stop dancing around the fucking point. It isn’t as simple as just not wanting a home. It’s knowing they can’t fucking manage the expenses and responsibility that are deliberately attached to owning a home. It’s trying to own a home and failing.
Except it isn’t trying and failing. In some cases they don’t even know how to try. In other cases they can but only some of the times because they aren’t always mentally stable.
It sounds like you think homelessness is because of individual failings and that isn’t always the case.
You’re either trolling me or replying to the wrong person. I’m the person arguing it isn’t the result of individual decisions, in the face of people constantly telling me they’re just choosing to be homeless. I have never once said it’s the result of individual failings. I’ve been attacking the people that have.
Your last comment suggested these people were homeless because they couldn’t manage the expenses which sounds like you are suggesting it is a personal failure. If your intention is otherwise then it is because you communicated your beliefs poorly not because Im trolling you.
They are unable to manage it because our economy has deliberately made it unmanageable. I have been consistently arguing against blaming them for their problems.
Also, two are involved in communication, the speaker and listener. That’s two points of failure. I’m not the only one.
There are actual people in the world who don’t want to be housed my dude.
Why?
Because they don’t agree with society, or they don’t want to be chained down to one specific place. Some just want adventure. It is an enjoyment thing for them.
I actually traveled like that for a summer a few years ago… was one of the most exciting times of my life. I couldn’t do that shit for ever, though.
Some do, however. The permanent travelers, I think, weren’t very happy. Perhaps they felt they couldn’t afford to put roots down. I don’t know. But there are people who do travel full time like that.
That’s being a deliberate wanderer. Not being unhoused.