I know that there is help available and all that bullshit, but I want to know if there is a legitimate threshold when it is okay to kill yourself. When is it okay to give up and face the fact that a bullet in your skull will gain more traction than your wellbeing ever will? When is it okay to drop from a society that continually endeavors to divide? Is there ever a point where I have no excuse for not killing myself, and struggling would make things worse? What do philosophers or psychologists say about this?

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    Reading into a bit of your question regarding societal rifts and divisions causing thoughts is suicidal ideation I believe there have been suicides that have attempted to bring issues, especially social and political, to light, and it genuinely doesn’t feel like they’ve effected any change. It’s much more beneficial to devote ones self to servicing change than to give up entirely, if you can’t find a way to affect change locally (you aren’t looking hard enough, or willing to sacrifice for a cause) there is an entire planet of people, most of whom can benefit from the knowledge and resources gifted to the average 1st world citizen, look at joining the peace Corp or doctors without borders, the conversation core, if you’re willing to sacrifice your life for a cause, why not do it while living? It will bring happiness and progress to people, rather than leaving people with shock and sadness that most will write off in seconds, and some will have to carry with them forever.

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      Reading a bit into your reply:

      You are talking from a very US christian perspective.

      A person’s value is measured in their value to society and others. To not aid others is wrong.

      All people in the 1st world are, by definition, privileged when compared to the rest of the world, so they have a duty/burden to help the less fortunate.

      Their euthanasia will cause pain and suffering to others, so they must continue.

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        I am speaking from a USA perspective, yeah.

        I don’t know that it is a modern prosperity gospel/capitalist Christian perspective that seems to be the current USA religion. I consider myself not religious, Atheist.

        I do think the education we receive is a privilege, one that I wish everyone would have access to and take advantage of. I do not think, or claim, there is a duty for anyone to assist in the development of other countries, but I do think there is a feeling of fulfillment that comes in doing so. I also think there is plenty of opportunity to do that type of work state-side, but if our societies divisiveness is causing thoughts of suicide it might be better to step away from the areas where our abused are most brought to light.

        You have written in a way that charitable work is not of value, and that makes me very sad. People often find fulfillment in helping those less fortunate, it doesn’t lead to riches, and it’s often mired in bureaucracy, but it shouldn’t be scorned as a way to find value in life.