cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52150351
[https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52150351] > My bicycle was simply sitting at rest
indoors when it exploded. A slit about ~6mm long was in the tube. I thought it
might be too big to patch, but I happen to have some quit big patches to try. I
cleaned the area w/denatured alcohol then roughened the surface w/the sanding
tool. I covered the whole patch footprint area with rubber cement. Around 90
sec. later applied the patch and lightly clamped it down. About 5 min later:
installed the tube and inflated to 4.5 bar. > > Couple min later it exploded
again. As the image shows, it blew exactly along the line of the original slit.
AFAICT, I could not have applied this patch better. That is, the air went
through the patch instead of around it. > > Why did this happen? The patch is
thicker and harder than the tube. So if the adhesive does its job well, then I
would expect the patch to be stronger than the rest of the tube. The elasticity
is lower in the patch, so I suppose that must be the problem. > > So I have to
wonder: would it be more or less effective to cut previously damaged spare tubes
to use for patching, instead of a patch? I wonder if larger holes need patches
with more elasticity. > > #### Rubber cement vs. contact glue > > Patch kits
include a tiny tube of “rubber cement”. The instructions say to wait 3 min
before applying the patch. That’s similar to contact glue instructions. The only
difference is contact glue instructions direct us to glue BOTH surfaces then
press them together a few min later, whereas the repair kits never say to put
glue on the patch (why is that?). > > Are the two glues chemically different? I
ask because it may not make sense for me to buy another patch kit when I happen
to have a very big tube of contact glue for shoe repair. >
Despite having a big tube of contact glue, I bought tire repair glue from a bicycle shop because I was told that contact glue is not vulcanising¹. @simulacra_procession@lemmy.today hints that it’s possible that non-vulcanising glue could be passed off as tire repair glue. Yikes. Is that just wild speculation, or is it a real issue?
The first cheap dollar-store patch kit I encountered said nothing about vulcanising. So I passed on that. Then Decathalon (a sporting goods shop) sells just the glue on its own. That also did not say “vulcanising”. The staff was clueless and did not even know how to make an upstream inquiry. So I said fuck it, and bought it. But I would like to know if this is really hit and miss… if it is worthwhile to track down something labeled as vulcanising.
¹ notice that I use both US and UK English spellings because lemmy is not smart about dialect variation when searching.