• PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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    He’s almost certainly going to appeal whatever verdict he gets, claiming that he had ineffective legal council and that the judge was biased against him. Because the only effective reason you can appeal is if you don’t believe your trial was fair. So he’s basically stacking the “this trial was unfair” deck in his favor.

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      I hate to be that guy, but you can’t appeal on ineffective assistance of counsel in a civil proceeding.

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          I don’t know, I just feel like correcting people on the internet often comes off as being pedantic even if that isn’t the intention. That is why I included the disclaimer I suppose. Thanks for the kind words though, I appreciate it.

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          Whoa, whoa…I was told this was a Reddit replacement and this is way too kind, humble, accepting, and level headed.

          This is downright peaceful.

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        Since when has something being legal or not ever stopped Trump from trying it?

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          I’m not sure what you mean exactly in this context? Are you saying he will try to appeal on those grounds anyway? If that is what you are saying then it doesn’t work like that because the appeals court will simply throw out the appeal for lack of standing I believe.

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            That’s exactly what I’m expecting would happen. Trump submits paperwork trying to appeal, it gets rejected for not being valid grounds to appeal, and he cries persecution in the media.

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              Oh, well in that case then I guess I agree with you. Both because that is his M.O. and also because his legal team in this specific case is especially incompetent.

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      “My trial was unfair!”

      “On what grounds?”

      “I made it unfair for myself!”

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      This oversight was first reported over two weeks ago, yet he hasn’t mentioned it or taken action in any way. Wonder if that would have an effect on such an appeal.

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        I don’t think it would because it is unlikely this case would have been granted a jury trial anyway due to New York law. There are specific requirements for requesting a civil jury trial in New York, and all the legal analysis I have seen has suggested they would not have met that bar.

        Jury Trials are onerous on the public and the judicial system, but are fundamentally necessary as well as guaranteed in criminal proceedings. However, for civil matters that is the exception rather than the rule.

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          Interesting, I hadn’t heard the possibility that he may have been denied a jury until now. Maybe that’s why he’s been quiet about it (until now of course.)

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            It wasn’t denied, his attorney’s never requested one in the first place. It is unlikely it would have been granted even if they had due to the aforementioned reasons. However, that has not stopped Trump from saying he was “denied” a jury trial which is just patently false.