If I had to join a service (and I’m just plain too old at this point, anyway), it’d probably be the Coast Guard. Their primary mission is saving lives. One issue is that they’re also an arm in the War on Drugs, and that’s where shooting might actually come into play. Other issue is how they handle refugees. That said, you can still feel better about their work than the regular military.
Many, if not most “regular military” jobs in Western armed forces don’t involve front line combat and getting shot at or shooting at people. Less than 10%.
Now obviously, you look at Ukraine and think “Well that’s a lot bigger than 10%,” and it probably is. But any country with a large air force, navy, and sizeable ground forces are gonna have thousands of people trained to load weapons onto planes, manage ship engines, cook, drive supply trucks, load cargo planes, cook, manage payroll, manage procurement of equipment, fly drones, cook, run propaganda and recruitment, operate medical facilities… the list goes on.
I had an ex whose brother was going to med school to be a surgeon for the Navy. Her father, who was an Army pilot, thought it was great because he knew his son was just gonna be (relatively) safe on a carrier or hospital ship somewhere, not getting shot at, and just saving lives.
Yeah, I joined for the GI Bill (and steady work, as I was 26 and working at a cable television call center), and ended up staying in because the job I was doing was preferable to what I had wanted to get a degree to do. I went into aviation, though (helicopter flight mechanic and avionics electrical technician). It’s been an awesome job and I get to retire in 6 years and get a paycheck for the rest of my life! And my kids get my GI Bill, so between the two of them they have 4 years of college paid (while also getting an allowance for housing).
I’ve never had to shoot at anybody or get shot at and have been in operational jobs my whole career. I’ve never been put in a situation where I had to do something morally questionable.
That said, if I went for a non-aviation rate I’d probably have done 4 and out, and get my degree. The other rates seem either boring or miserable (to me). Then again, the vast majority of civilians jobs feel the same way to me, so YMMV.
(and I’m just plain too old at this point, anyway)
Not sure how old you are, but the max age for active duty enlistment was raised to 42. Which, as a person who went through boot camp at 26/27 and just turned 40, is nuts.
Coast Guard is offering $65k for anyone who wants to cook.
It’s honestly a pretty miserable job, but you’re not getting shot at, sooooo…
If I had to join a service (and I’m just plain too old at this point, anyway), it’d probably be the Coast Guard. Their primary mission is saving lives. One issue is that they’re also an arm in the War on Drugs, and that’s where shooting might actually come into play. Other issue is how they handle refugees. That said, you can still feel better about their work than the regular military.
Many, if not most “regular military” jobs in Western armed forces don’t involve front line combat and getting shot at or shooting at people. Less than 10%.
Now obviously, you look at Ukraine and think “Well that’s a lot bigger than 10%,” and it probably is. But any country with a large air force, navy, and sizeable ground forces are gonna have thousands of people trained to load weapons onto planes, manage ship engines, cook, drive supply trucks, load cargo planes, cook, manage payroll, manage procurement of equipment, fly drones, cook, run propaganda and recruitment, operate medical facilities… the list goes on.
I had an ex whose brother was going to med school to be a surgeon for the Navy. Her father, who was an Army pilot, thought it was great because he knew his son was just gonna be (relatively) safe on a carrier or hospital ship somewhere, not getting shot at, and just saving lives.
Yep.
I heard about a surgeon he worked at a military base. Sure he would see gun wounds etc
But never actually be in combat himself
I used to game with a former Coastie, he said roughly the same thing.
Same GI Bill, same pension system, and you get to actually do shit most of the time you’re in.
Yeah, I joined for the GI Bill (and steady work, as I was 26 and working at a cable television call center), and ended up staying in because the job I was doing was preferable to what I had wanted to get a degree to do. I went into aviation, though (helicopter flight mechanic and avionics electrical technician). It’s been an awesome job and I get to retire in 6 years and get a paycheck for the rest of my life! And my kids get my GI Bill, so between the two of them they have 4 years of college paid (while also getting an allowance for housing).
I’ve never had to shoot at anybody or get shot at and have been in operational jobs my whole career. I’ve never been put in a situation where I had to do something morally questionable.
That said, if I went for a non-aviation rate I’d probably have done 4 and out, and get my degree. The other rates seem either boring or miserable (to me). Then again, the vast majority of civilians jobs feel the same way to me, so YMMV.
Not sure how old you are, but the max age for active duty enlistment was raised to 42. Which, as a person who went through boot camp at 26/27 and just turned 40, is nuts.
Service industry for an especially entitled clientele? Fuck off. That’s not nearly enough money.