Having a look at the cooker rally pages and communities to get an idea of how big the “No to the voice” rally today will be. I don’t think it’ll be big but it will still be very disruptive to trams along Bourke, Swanston, Flinders, Elizabeth. There are speeches planned under the clocks at Flinders St Station.
I wonder if they can stick to the main subject matter instead of pro Trump, anti wind farm, anti vaccine, anti 15 minute cities, anti UN and WEF, and more… They seem to be quite unhappy that there will be politicians that don’t want them talking about the conspiracy stuff in the Sydney rally, too.
Had no idea what 15-minute cities are, and like I know why they’re against it now, but like my GOD that’s stupid. I just want to be able to get to places without having to uber (my docs are close-ish to work but not close to home).
Don’t even have Uber 45/50km from the cbd. Auspost doesn’t deliver parcels at all. Post office is closed Saturday’s. Local Doctors aren’t taking new patients so it’s a 40min drive to the one I was seeing. Train is 20 min drive away. Bus stop is a 4km walk. Dirt road. No sewerage service.
I had to sacrifice a lot when I used to live on the peninsula. Like, I lived really close to the shops, so I could go and get groceries whenever I wanted, especially like if we ran out of milk. And also within decent walking distance to the doctors I was with at the time too, and when I used to go to high school I could walk home and back (it was still maybe a 20 or 30 minute walk give or take, but it was also when I wasn’t so physically disabled). However, the closest train station was Frankston and that was an hour and a half bus ride, while I was close to the bus stop, I had to always leave whatever I was doing in the city so early. Also when I was studying it was hell – especially 9am starts.
Now I live closer to a train station, but Coles is something we have to drive to, work is a drive, and so is my doctors. Though I am lucky that our Post office is open Saturdays but I think it’s only the parcel pick up maybe?
Seriously! I mean holy shit, look at the people who cry about socialism whenever someone says that healthcare should be free and not privatised. Or that hey, maybe people should be paid a liveable wage. It just doesn’t make sense whenever people are so against something that, yeah, could benefit them. It reminds me of that moment where Fry from Futurama is asked why he’s cheering against poor people because he’s not rich, and he replies saying “Someday I might be rich, and people like me better watch their step!”
They make it so obvious they are part of the Kremlin conspiracy movement. They just keep repeating the same talking points that you hear from the Russian trolls. Not sure what the aim is, maybe to drive a wedge between our long alliance and friendship with America and NATO.
I think that many people voting no are doing so because they are indifferent, disinterested, don’t care about politics. So the rally won’t be a good indicator of the size of the no vote. The ‘if you don’t know vote no’ was such an easy win for the no campaign. Everybody is entitled to their vote but I feel people living in democracies shouldnt waste their votes because ‘meh’. I think there a moral obligation to participate, whatever your decision is it should be an informed one with real reasons.
Oh for sure, the size of the No vote in Victoria and especially inner Melbourne will be quite small just based on demographics, voting patterns and reports from pollsters.
Having a look at the cooker rally pages and communities to get an idea of how big the “No to the voice” rally today will be. I don’t think it’ll be big but it will still be very disruptive to trams along Bourke, Swanston, Flinders, Elizabeth. There are speeches planned under the clocks at Flinders St Station.
I wonder if they can stick to the main subject matter instead of pro Trump, anti wind farm, anti vaccine, anti 15 minute cities, anti UN and WEF, and more… They seem to be quite unhappy that there will be politicians that don’t want them talking about the conspiracy stuff in the Sydney rally, too.
Had no idea what 15-minute cities are, and like I know why they’re against it now, but like my GOD that’s stupid. I just want to be able to get to places without having to uber (my docs are close-ish to work but not close to home).
Don’t even have Uber 45/50km from the cbd. Auspost doesn’t deliver parcels at all. Post office is closed Saturday’s. Local Doctors aren’t taking new patients so it’s a 40min drive to the one I was seeing. Train is 20 min drive away. Bus stop is a 4km walk. Dirt road. No sewerage service.
Local things would be a luxury.
I had to sacrifice a lot when I used to live on the peninsula. Like, I lived really close to the shops, so I could go and get groceries whenever I wanted, especially like if we ran out of milk. And also within decent walking distance to the doctors I was with at the time too, and when I used to go to high school I could walk home and back (it was still maybe a 20 or 30 minute walk give or take, but it was also when I wasn’t so physically disabled). However, the closest train station was Frankston and that was an hour and a half bus ride, while I was close to the bus stop, I had to always leave whatever I was doing in the city so early. Also when I was studying it was hell – especially 9am starts.
Now I live closer to a train station, but Coles is something we have to drive to, work is a drive, and so is my doctors. Though I am lucky that our Post office is open Saturdays but I think it’s only the parcel pick up maybe?
I am always amazed at how people can think something that would benefit them is a conspiracy.
Seriously! I mean holy shit, look at the people who cry about socialism whenever someone says that healthcare should be free and not privatised. Or that hey, maybe people should be paid a liveable wage. It just doesn’t make sense whenever people are so against something that, yeah, could benefit them. It reminds me of that moment where Fry from Futurama is asked why he’s cheering against poor people because he’s not rich, and he replies saying “Someday I might be rich, and people like me better watch their step!”
They make it so obvious they are part of the Kremlin conspiracy movement. They just keep repeating the same talking points that you hear from the Russian trolls. Not sure what the aim is, maybe to drive a wedge between our long alliance and friendship with America and NATO.
I think that many people voting no are doing so because they are indifferent, disinterested, don’t care about politics. So the rally won’t be a good indicator of the size of the no vote. The ‘if you don’t know vote no’ was such an easy win for the no campaign. Everybody is entitled to their vote but I feel people living in democracies shouldnt waste their votes because ‘meh’. I think there a moral obligation to participate, whatever your decision is it should be an informed one with real reasons.
Oh for sure, the size of the No vote in Victoria and especially inner Melbourne will be quite small just based on demographics, voting patterns and reports from pollsters.
I was thinking no vote will be much larger than what the polls are saying.