Prosecutors have charged a Metropolitan Police officer with murder after he shot rapper Chris Kaba in London last year.

Prosecutors have charged a Metropolitan Police officer with murder after he shot rapper Chris Kaba in London last year.

  • meseek #2982@lemmy.ca
    4011·
    10 months ago

    He shot them dead. It’s a figure of speech, meaning the shot was fatal. So the headline is fine. He shot dead a cat. He shot dead an old lady. He shot dead a black kid.

    • reverendsteveii
      192·
      10 months ago

      The headline is technically grammatically correct but ambiguous. “…shot and killed unarmed black man” would have been better. If you absolutely need to stick to word/character count, “shot unarmed black man dead” would be less ambiguous and more in keeping with how people actually use “shot dead”. I’ve watched a lot of westerns and I can think of quite a few where someone says “I shot him dead” but not one where someone says “I shot dead him”.

      • stillwater@lemm.eeEnglish
        101·
        10 months ago

        The US and the UK have different figures of speech and idioms. People in the UK don’t usually sound like cowboys.

        • reverendsteveii
          3·
          10 months ago

          I’d love to see an example of “I shot dead him”. I’m not trying to be defensive, I’d really enjoy seeing it. Dialects fascinate me.

          • stillwater@lemm.eeEnglish
            51·
            10 months ago

            Well, it’s an expression that only comes up in the third person, not the first person. You’d see “Tim shot dead Eric”. I think if they’d say anything like that in the UK, it would just be “I shot him”.

            • reverendsteveii
              4·
              10 months ago

              I still only have ever heard “Tim shot Eric dead.” I’ve never seen it any other way except in this headlines.

      • meseek #2982@lemmy.ca
        1·
        10 months ago

        Comma would be weird; there’s no pause, for example: “he shot dead a heard of cattle”. It all flows as one line.

        If you want to fix it, just ad an “an”:

        “London Cop Who Shot Dead An Unarmed Black Man Charged With Murder”. Which is typically how the saying is used. If you want a comma, I’d add it after “man”.

        But I’m not a literary professor or anything.

      • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
        2·
        9 months ago

        Figures of speech turn up in all writing, and especially in headlines. They’re useful to convey more meaning than is normally possible in few words because they rely on assumed context. Because major goals of headlines include information packing and brevity, idioms, turns of phrase, and figures of speech are common.

        Shaka, when the walls fell.