• Madison420@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Amusing, when exactly was this utopian culture in existence because as far as I’m aware the last 2000 years of society directly disagree with you.

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      1 year ago

      Who said anything about a utopia? I’m talking about one aspect, a belief in an American Democracy/Republic (I know the D word triggers some people out there and that’s not the conversation right now). If you read our founders writing they considered public debate to be the best way to maintain that project because the previous government would jail you for criticism. That’s it. That’s the reasoning and context. Nobody claimed it was perfect

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        1 year ago

        I’m aware, what period of time are you speaking of.

        You need to narrow down your founding fathers since approximately a third were openly and objectively anti democratic.

        The period of time regardless of what era you choose is not as you portray it.

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          1 year ago

          Narrow your argument says the dude who’s made 0 actual claims and instead chooses to do the old “you’re just wrong” approach straight out of the gate.

          Thanks for the empty conversation

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            When I was growing up it was never about tolerating intolerance. It was about dragging it out into the sunlight so you could kill it.

            This period of time has not existed in recorded human history point blank period.

            We choose issues and we pursue those issues but that state of affairs where injustices are inherently dragged out into the light has never existed and certainly not in the United States.

            Shit if you’re 60 you’ve lived through literal systemic racism which has existed for what 300 years and still exists. You’d also have lived in a time where a woman needed an adult male related to her to sign so she could get a bank account.

            Take off the nostalgia binders boss.

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              1 year ago

              Are you living under a rock?

              What do you mean we’ve never dragged out issues into the light so they can be handled?

              Antifa?

              Martin Luther King Jr?

              I’m done with this conversation, I’m losing brain cells by the second

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                1 year ago

                Nope just on one.

                I mean exactly as I said, you’re blinded by nostalgia.

                Antifa?

                That is certainly a question just not one anyone could answer, what do you have against antifa.

                Martin Luther King Jr

                Famously publicly assassinated for dragging things out into the light, good point…

                I’m done with this conversation, I’m losing brain cells by the second

                Well don’t huff gas then boss.

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                  1 year ago

                  You just dodged every counter point I made with unrelated commentary.

                  We drag bullshit into the light all the time so we can fucking stomp it out. Just like antifa and other groups do, just like MLK did, just like the fucking Dead Kennedies.

                  You’re a really bad troll. Like, I could get more rustled sitting in a Roblox server or the comment section of a hooked on phonics video. I’m sorry you feel the need to hide in chaos and hatred to hide your fear and self loathing.

                  See ya later alligator!

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                    Not in the slightest, you need to make a counter argument for me to dodge one.

                    Sure, that is the exception to the rule not the rule, it’s why they’re so well known however if I say the hard hat riots 90% of people will not know what the fuck I’m talking about.

                    No one is trolling you’re simply not adept at conversational argument.

                    Yep, you said that last time and I imagine you’ll say you’re done again yet continue to respond.