Maybe that’s why ddg doesnt click with me.
How do i use ddg for technical questions that need some obscure forum posts from 15 years ago? I obly get stackoverflow and windows forums. Those arent helpful at all.
I’m not impressed with Kagi. I was lied to by someone at Kagi when I asked a question about their using geo-location data.
(Well, technically not lied to, but it was clear they were being deliberately evasive and deceptive, which didn’t impress me much, since it’s a paid service I was considering.)
Obviously, my take may be biased, so I’ve added screenshots from the exchange I had with Kagi, but I’ve blotted out all names for privacy. Even though this left a bad taste in my mouth, I hope I’m not depicting this unfairly, so now you can decide for yourself.
Edit: If you’re tempted to respond in bad faith, go annoy someone else. I’m not taking the bait, I’ll just block your ass.
Edit Part 2: Why do all my comments attract the most insufferable neckbeards?
A. It’s clear why I found it deceptive since he was being a pedant about what constitutes search results (if a widget is summoned by a search term – which didn’t request it btw – then that widget is part of the results. It’s batshit looney to think otherwise)
B. But I literally posted screenshots for full disclosure and for the sake of honesty – and I’m still getting losers posting cringe in response. Fucking suburbanite straight white male energy stfu
C. Get blocked, fuckwits. If I wanted your opinion, I’d ask.
I don’t think that’s (intentionally) deceptive, it seems like two people talking past each other… I’ve been frustrated with customer support at a lot of places, I don’t take it to mean those places are bad though. Good customer support is expensive and hard.
Thanks for sharing though, I’ll keep that in the back of my mind.
Edit: I’m also curious why you care if they serve you geolocated results? That might be part of what the support agent was confused by.
… also maybe tone it down a bit, I don’t think that other guy was trying to bait you and get you all hyped up.
I want a search engine that does not use any location data whatsoever to manipulate results because I see it as an extremely problematic practice. For example, someone who lives in my area would be more likely to see agencies and interests that align with fascism, since this is a heavily fascist state.
This, and it doesn’t seem like a big ask to have a search engine solely respond to deliberate input from the user, so I’m not sure why I need to defend searching for such a thing. The agent could have simply disclosed that they do use locational data to provide their services, and I would have moved on. Instead, he tried to dodge the question. Not only that, but he became very pedantic about what constitutes a “search.” In my interpretation, any widgets or any results whatsoever that use locational data would fall under this umbrella. It is needlessly pedantic to claim that it is something else entirely, since as you can see it was presented to me in response to my entering a keyword, a keyword which I might add did not request a widget at all.
While I feel like that in this case it is a non-problem, I could see while someone would like the ability to de-localize search results.
Also agree on the rude aspect, thats just unworthy of such a civil discussion.
Legitimately, what part of that was deceptive? They outright stated that those specialized widgets you can’t disable. Your post here is far more misleading in comparison.
Why do all my comments attract the most insufferable neckbeards?
A. It’s clear why I found it deceptive since he was being a pedant about what constitutes search results (if a widget is summoned by a search term – which didn’t request it btw – then that widget is part of the results. It’s batshit looney to think otherwise)
B. But I literally posted screenshots for full disclosure and for the sake of honesty – and I’m still getting losers posting cringe in response. Fucking suburbanite straight white male energy stfu
C. Get blocked, fuckwit. If I wanted your opinion, I’d ask.
How about Kagi?
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I mean it’s kinda pointless to compare Google’s privacy features since they have none
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Google is the default. How can you say that duckduckgo has good results if you dont compare them to google. Trash diagram.
Fully agree.
We don’t even know what search query was used either, and what the criteria was used to grade seach engine.
DDG’s results are perfectly fine to me - however for best results you shouldn’t structure search queries in the same way you would for Google
IMO trying Google after using ddg for a couple years just shows some big weaknesses in the quality of Google’s results. Fake SEO clone sites et al ☹️
Maybe that’s why ddg doesnt click with me.
How do i use ddg for technical questions that need some obscure forum posts from 15 years ago? I obly get stackoverflow and windows forums. Those arent helpful at all.
They’re the worst in terms of being the panopticum, but I don’t understand how easy it is to buy data from them.
I’m not impressed with Kagi. I was lied to by someone at Kagi when I asked a question about their using geo-location data.
(Well, technically not lied to, but it was clear they were being deliberately evasive and deceptive, which didn’t impress me much, since it’s a paid service I was considering.)
Edit.
Obviously, my take may be biased, so I’ve added screenshots from the exchange I had with Kagi, but I’ve blotted out all names for privacy. Even though this left a bad taste in my mouth, I hope I’m not depicting this unfairly, so now you can decide for yourself.
Edit: If you’re tempted to respond in bad faith, go annoy someone else. I’m not taking the bait, I’ll just block your ass.
Edit Part 2: Why do all my comments attract the most insufferable neckbeards?
A. It’s clear why I found it deceptive since he was being a pedant about what constitutes search results (if a widget is summoned by a search term – which didn’t request it btw – then that widget is part of the results. It’s batshit looney to think otherwise)
B. But I literally posted screenshots for full disclosure and for the sake of honesty – and I’m still getting losers posting cringe in response. Fucking suburbanite straight white male energy stfu
C. Get blocked, fuckwits. If I wanted your opinion, I’d ask.
Which part of that replay was deceptive?
The fuck kinda question is this? Go annoy someone else, prick
I don’t think that’s (intentionally) deceptive, it seems like two people talking past each other… I’ve been frustrated with customer support at a lot of places, I don’t take it to mean those places are bad though. Good customer support is expensive and hard.
Thanks for sharing though, I’ll keep that in the back of my mind.
Edit: I’m also curious why you care if they serve you geolocated results? That might be part of what the support agent was confused by.
… also maybe tone it down a bit, I don’t think that other guy was trying to bait you and get you all hyped up.
I want a search engine that does not use any location data whatsoever to manipulate results because I see it as an extremely problematic practice. For example, someone who lives in my area would be more likely to see agencies and interests that align with fascism, since this is a heavily fascist state.
This, and it doesn’t seem like a big ask to have a search engine solely respond to deliberate input from the user, so I’m not sure why I need to defend searching for such a thing. The agent could have simply disclosed that they do use locational data to provide their services, and I would have moved on. Instead, he tried to dodge the question. Not only that, but he became very pedantic about what constitutes a “search.” In my interpretation, any widgets or any results whatsoever that use locational data would fall under this umbrella. It is needlessly pedantic to claim that it is something else entirely, since as you can see it was presented to me in response to my entering a keyword, a keyword which I might add did not request a widget at all.
While I feel like that in this case it is a non-problem, I could see while someone would like the ability to de-localize search results. Also agree on the rude aspect, thats just unworthy of such a civil discussion.
Legitimately, what part of that was deceptive? They outright stated that those specialized widgets you can’t disable. Your post here is far more misleading in comparison.
Why do all my comments attract the most insufferable neckbeards?
A. It’s clear why I found it deceptive since he was being a pedant about what constitutes search results (if a widget is summoned by a search term – which didn’t request it btw – then that widget is part of the results. It’s batshit looney to think otherwise)
B. But I literally posted screenshots for full disclosure and for the sake of honesty – and I’m still getting losers posting cringe in response. Fucking suburbanite straight white male energy stfu
C. Get blocked, fuckwit. If I wanted your opinion, I’d ask.
https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/b7ad3f91-d781-4085-9757-873ed7e6f4ee.jpeg
You mean they were being precisely accurate
I’m not male
You posted to a public forum, but man you’ve really got an attitude about any contest to what you’ve said.