This shit is still happening, yet people are still complaining about the restaurant industry crumbling.
Where I live, there isn’t a separate minimum wage for servers, bartenders, etc. Minimum wage is minimum wage across the board. Despite this, tips are still expected because of the US, and certain people complain that the new normal should be 30%.
I’m not broke, but I’m also certainly not rich. If the only options are to throw away money to people earning about the sams amount that I make, or not going at all, I’m not going. I’ll tip well for good/decent service, but an attitude like the one in this post would guarantee that I would never return. I work too hard for my money to be obligated to give it away.
I’ve seen so many articles about Millenials/Gen Z killing various industries. They want us to pay for all of these extras, but with what money? Of COURSE a lot people are going to eventually stop going to these places. Places that tend to have this general attitude close pretty quickly in my city, because there are many places that don’t have that attitude, and are also inviting to customers. Those places get the tips.
I’ll tip a complete stranger before I ever tip someone for being snitty.
I think the restaurant industry NEEDS to be culled. By about 80% We reached 100% restaurant saturation a couple of decades ago. You can’t swing a cat without hitting the side of a McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy’s or pizza place.
Tipping culture in the U.S. is fucked. Who does it benefit most? The employers who are able to underpay their workers. (Even minimum wage these days is horrifically low.)
The companies are able to externalize the wages they should be paying to their customers, who really pay huge portions of the employees’ “wage”. (E.g. I’m a gig worker doing deliveries, and more than HALF my pay comes from tips.)
If you don’t tip or tip very low, you’re using the employer’s negligence as an excuse not to pay the service workers a living wage. For this reason, when considering engaging with the service industry, you should assume you will pay a healthy tip, unless the service worker truly and massively drops the ball. If you can’t afford a healthy (20%) tip, then you can’t actually afford the service.
If you don’t tip or tip very low, you’re using the employer’s negligence as an excuse not to pay the service workers a living wage.
If you can’t afford a healthy (20%) tip, then you can’t actually afford the service.
What are you getting at, really? The tipping culture is fucked, and yet it falls on us, not the employers, to unfuck this shit?
Don’t tell me you’re one of those people who acknoledge climate change is due to the big corporations, but it is the consumers’ responsibility to save the earth.
I’m not from US, and when I’m from, we’d pay only as much as we’re legally obligated to, unless the service is really good.
This shit is still happening, yet people are still complaining about the restaurant industry crumbling.
Where I live, there isn’t a separate minimum wage for servers, bartenders, etc. Minimum wage is minimum wage across the board. Despite this, tips are still expected because of the US, and certain people complain that the new normal should be 30%.
I’m not broke, but I’m also certainly not rich. If the only options are to throw away money to people earning about the sams amount that I make, or not going at all, I’m not going. I’ll tip well for good/decent service, but an attitude like the one in this post would guarantee that I would never return. I work too hard for my money to be obligated to give it away.
I’ve seen so many articles about Millenials/Gen Z killing various industries. They want us to pay for all of these extras, but with what money? Of COURSE a lot people are going to eventually stop going to these places. Places that tend to have this general attitude close pretty quickly in my city, because there are many places that don’t have that attitude, and are also inviting to customers. Those places get the tips.
I’ll tip a complete stranger before I ever tip someone for being snitty.
Y’all need to unionize.
Talk to a server. By and large, they do NOT want to eliminate tipping.
Only reason one is supposed to. This is the justification many waiters give for wanting this system.
I think the restaurant industry NEEDS to be culled. By about 80% We reached 100% restaurant saturation a couple of decades ago. You can’t swing a cat without hitting the side of a McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy’s or pizza place.
Sir please put the cat down, it has nothing to do with the restaurant issue.
exactly. They keep thinking customers are going to unionize their pay and hand it to them on a silver platter with a big fat bow.
“CUSTOMERS ARENT YOUR FINANCIAL MANAGER. THEY ARE NOT YOUR UNION REP. WAKE THE FUCK UP.”
Tipping culture in the U.S. is fucked. Who does it benefit most? The employers who are able to underpay their workers. (Even minimum wage these days is horrifically low.)
The companies are able to externalize the wages they should be paying to their customers, who really pay huge portions of the employees’ “wage”. (E.g. I’m a gig worker doing deliveries, and more than HALF my pay comes from tips.)
If you don’t tip or tip very low, you’re using the employer’s negligence as an excuse not to pay the service workers a living wage. For this reason, when considering engaging with the service industry, you should assume you will pay a healthy tip, unless the service worker truly and massively drops the ball. If you can’t afford a healthy (20%) tip, then you can’t actually afford the service.
What are you getting at, really? The tipping culture is fucked, and yet it falls on us, not the employers, to unfuck this shit?
Don’t tell me you’re one of those people who acknoledge climate change is due to the big corporations, but it is the consumers’ responsibility to save the earth.
I’m not from US, and when I’m from, we’d pay only as much as we’re legally obligated to, unless the service is really good.
Laughing in European, where tipping is just not a thing.
20% tip needed for the service? Fuck off then , I will never go there.
It falls on the government to unfuck it, by abolishing the tipped wage.
it’s not the customers’responsibility to take over the responsibility of the business. focus your anger at the root cause.
Tipping is still here because employees like it. Most servers make more on tips than they would without. Full stop.
The average hourly pay for a server is $7.45 an hour so no, they don’t.
You missed the point. The tips make more than their hourly wage.
Right that’s $2.13 an hour