• chillbo_baggins@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    It’s convenient. It’s where all my playlists are… that said, I’m open to alternatives?

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      1. Listen on YT with adblock
      2. Download audio with Newpipe (OPUS 160kbps)
      3. Manage files with Amaze
      4. Listen with VLC

      I like this model, because YT has niche creators and I dont have to care about “Spotify changes X” news. Note: I have 1.5GB songs stored locally and listen ~30 minutes daily. I acknowledge discovering new songs is slower

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      You can just use NewPipe background player. NewPipe lets you create and save playlists. No ads.

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      Well, piracy, but I’d say apple music or tidal, etc are even better than Spotify. There are services for transferring your playlists.

      Some are paid but if it’s just a one time transfer you could do them all in a free trial window.

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      download mp3s from youtube. Use rhythmbox on linux and metro on android. Metro even tries to find the lyrics online

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          Yup, can understand if your library is small, but for bigger libraries that’s definitely the most inconvenient thing you can do.

          Speaking from experience because I was basically forced to do it that way when I didn’t have regular internet access yet. My library was longer than 50 days. Just Hip-Hop alone was above 100GB.

          I used to find a shitton of music that way, but the inconvenience was real. Worst was music that I had to tag myself for example. Love mp3tag but that’s shit.

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          I find it inconvenient to have limited skips and depend on one service to give you the song you want with the version you want. Also spotify ui doesn’t make sense to me, things just don’t work at times. Not to mention the ads.

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              I don’t like paid services, especially when you can get the same or most of the same stuff for free. It’s just not worth it for me, so that is my suggested alternative, doesn’t work for everyone.

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                Not really trying to argue with you but we were not discussing your preference haha😅 Just trying to say spotify premium is pretty convenient at a cheap price

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                Unlike movie and tv streaming music streaming convenience is no contest for piracy if you’re an enthusiastic.

                And this is coming from someone would download albums and discogrpahies, using programs to meticulously tag and organize them. I wish I had the time and patience now, and for the highlights of my collection I will, but with my music craving a music stream subscription is well worth it.

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        Mp3s from YT are garbage quality, it’s double transcoding from YT’s already low quality input.

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          Yeah. If you’re gonna be downloading music from youtube, might as well just torrent flac or at least 320kbps quality instead.

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          You can download audio from YouTube as 160kbps opus files, which aren’t lossless sure but it’s the highest quality you can get from YouTube if alternate means aren’t an option.

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            And that’s trusting that whoever uploaded the track had a good quality source. And it’s still double encoded.

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              Any official uploads from recent years are going to be just fine. And if not then maybe their spotify upload is broken too

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                Hq is equivalent to 320kbps, noticably better than YT quality

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              Well if you save the opus or aac it’s only single lossy compression, not double unless the uploader used a lossy file as their input. But if that was the case, ripping mp3 would be triple lossy compression…

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              For mp3 sure, but for opus standards 160kbps is great. I read that 128kbps is generally considered the most you need but 160kbps smooths over any artifacts, assuming the source file doesn’t have them.

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            Then you probably don’t know any better because the vast majority of YT uploads are terrible quality. If you have anywhere near decent headphones/earbuds you can hear the difference immediately.

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              Well I’ve used spotify with and without headphones on popular phones, I can’t tell the difference from youtube. I usually download the music directly from the original uploader.

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        I was big into downloading before streaming services were a thing. Music streaming is one of the few services that’s totally worth my money: no hassle and I rarely have to resort to other platforms to find what I want (very different from video streaming, which totally sucks when it comes to that).

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          100% this. Paying $12 a month for basically all music I’ll ever want to listen to, is just an amazing deal. It’s so convenient. Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

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            Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

            Yep, that’s the step they forgot: be more convenient than the pirates.

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        Can I use any of those at the same time I am playing a game on ps3/ps4/ps5 they way they have integrated spotify? I use spotify because it is available on the devices I use. I would use bandcamp on them if it were an option as I love my collection there but, it is not available on many of the devices I use.

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          personally I don’t find that convinience worth it for the money/ads and other inconveniences, but that varies from person to person

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        That is what I do, however it is very tedious when you want to listen to full albums, and add info to the file such as the album art and artist. Services like Spotify also sync your Library and playlist automatically across devices.

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          I made myself a python script to automatically tag and download entire albums from youtube at a time. I use syncthing to automatically sync it all. Quality isn’t the best but I can’t tell anyway so

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          Fwiw, some youtube to mp3 converters will let you convert full playlists (don’t remember which, but there are a few).