• lawful good – grassy trams
  • neutral good – bicycles
  • chaotic good – rail bicycles
  • lawful neutral – diesel trains
  • true neutral – walking
  • chaotic neutral – parkour
  • lawful evil – airplanes
  • neutral evil – Las Vegas Loop
  • chaotic evil – rolling coal
  • Techranger@infosec.pubEnglish
    284·
    1 year ago

    l’ll speak up for airplanes, or at least airliners in particular. I concede the point they mostly burn non-renewable fuels, but they make excellent use of the resources. Rhetorically speaking, one can cross half the planet in half a day, for not much money, in a mode of transport that is the safest on the planet (typically an order of magnitude safer than cars as I recall).

    • br3d@lemmy.worldEnglish
      20·
      1 year ago

      Although don’t forget that “for not much money” is partly because air travel is so subsidised. Fuel tends to be largely untaxed, even though fuel taxes on other modes don’t really cover the externalities

    • Ilovethebomb@lemmy.mlEnglish
      16·
      1 year ago

      In terms of fuel per passenger unit of distance, air travel is very efficient, the reason why there are so many emissions is the amount of distance you can travel.

      Fuel makes up a significant amount of the aircraft’s weight at takeoff on long haul flights.

    • zoe @infosec.pubEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      aerial transport is justified for intercontinental transport, but shouldnt be adopted when land travel is possible

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Especially on middle-distance routes where land transport would be faster (considering that airports can’t be downtown like train stations can be, the delays associated with airport security, etc.) if the rail infrastructure were decent.

    • someguy7734206@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      If I recall correctly, aren’t high speed trains the safest? At the very least, I recall that the Shinkansen has never had a single safety incident in its entire history, and as for the TGV, there have been a few derailments and a terrorist attack.

    • Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      61·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, that’s why I put them in lawful. If we can get them to be more sustainable (maybe green hydrogen fuel), then they’d basically just be super fast and super safe sky buses, whereas they’re currently extremely polluting sky buses.

    • Kilgore Trout@feddit.itEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      We should switch to more coscentious standards. Air travel is a commodity. We must avoid it as much as possible.

  • Album@lemmy.caEnglish
    91·
    1 year ago

    Fun facts:

    • The GO Train pictured in your lawful neutral served 35,234,400 passengers in 2022 and covers 526km connecting 27 cities (rough count).
    • The old diesel-electric fleet was replaced for higher efficiency/lower emission units about a decade ago and these models are now being converted into even lower emission units.
    • In the next decade a large portion of tracks will be electrified.
    • Gatekeeping mass transit is weird