• Dremor@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    And how do you think the road you use are paid? How do you think the military that protect you from communists states are paid?

    By printing free money?

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      1 year ago

      They are able to fund massive war crimes such as invasions and mass murder around the world by debasing the currency, drug trafficking and other criminal operations on top of theft known as taxes.

      The military are the ones enforcing communist policies of the bankers on the rest of the world. The only countries that get invaded are ones without a central bank controlled by them.

      Roads are paid for by fuel tax and tolls.

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        You’d probably suprised that tools and taxes are nowhere enough to pay for the enormous road infrastructure of the US. In avarage it pays for around half of it. The rest is funded by your taxes.

        One of many sources: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/states-road-funding-2019/

        As for the accusations of war crimes, mass murder, I unfortunately can only agree as those are well documented. If my memory is right, there is some drug dealing and other criminal scandals here and there, but nowhere enough to fund the behemoth that the US military is.

        But I fail to see how debasing the currency would fund anything without creating a gigantic inflation. And by that I mean multiple times more that the current one which is mainly caused by the growing cost of energy. So no, i doubt it is how it get funded.

        As for the “without central bank controlled by them”, of course they aren’t. The central bank is either controlled by the country themselves, or by a community of countries (example: EU central bank). So of course a country invaded by the US wouldn’t have a central bank controlled by the US. And so do all the country NOT invaded by the US. This argument make no sense.

        The military answer to whomever is the head of state, not to banks. Problem is, of course, if said official is corrupted by the banks, if which case ot is the role of the press to investigate and expose said corruption. With credible evidences of course. So unless you can prove what you are saying with credible evidence, better say it as being an opinion rather than a fact.

        Oh, and communism is, by definition, against the power of banks. So saying a bank is pushing a communist agenda is kinda… ironic. But that’s my opinion.

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          When new money is created the central banks get it first thus it’s value is still mainly unchanged. They loan it to the government and they spend it to fund tremendous crimes.

          By the time the money gets to the average person the inflation is realized by the economy and the purchasing powers has decreased.

          “So of course a country invaded by the US wouldn’t have a central bank controlled by the US.”

          Exactly, because the US is controlled by banks, so the US military does the bidding of the bankers. They invade because they do not control the region yet, not to “spread freedom”.

          Communism is not “against the banks”, central banking is literally in the communist manifesto, communism is against banks they do not control.

          The US has a central bank because it was infiltrated by communists.

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            When new money is created the central banks get it first thus it’s value is still mainly unchanged. They loan it to the government and they spend it to fund tremendous crimes.

            By the time the money gets to the average person the inflation is realized by the economy and the purchasing powers has decreased.

            That now how it work, like at all. The central bank do not control the value of the money they print, the exchanges does. If they print too much, the money will devaluate, which means inflation. Which means the US government will have to pay more for what they wanted to buy, aka printing more money, which further devaluate the money, and so on. Same goes with any currency, be it physical or crypto.

            Exactly, because the US is controlled by banks, so the US military does the bidding of the bankers. They invade because they do not control the region yet, not to “spread freedom”.

            Still waiting for the US to “spread their freedom” to countries that said them to go f*ck themselves, like France during the Irak invasion. And by that not by renaming French fries to Freedom fries like the some GOP politician pushed forward.

            Exactly, because the US is controlled by banks, so the US military does the bidding of the bankers. They invade because they do not control the region yet, not to “spread freedom”.

            They don’t need “communist bankers” for that. A fascist state would have done the same. The US need energy, which means oil. That as simple as that.

            The US has a central bank because it was infiltrated by communists

            So infiltrated by communism they enacled some of the worst anti-communism laws in the world? All that while being controlled by a communist central bank created (1913) before the Russian communist revolution (1917)? Yeah… right…

            Globally, there is no fascist bankers, nor communist ones. It is far simpler that that.

            The true villain is simply our collective greed, who want to live as comfortably as possible no matter the impact on who we see as the “others”. The politics know that, manipulate that to their own ends, creating scapegoat left and right (fascist on the left, commies on the right), to make us fight against each other.

            And you are currently playing right into their hand by blaming some communist others for our collective shortcommings at finding a collective solution at a collective problem.

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              By printing more money they devalue the money in existence. They have first access to new money so they benefit from it and buy up assets, while the poor ignorant fool does not know how to protect himself from inflation tax.

              France is controlled by the same bankers as the US, freedom-fries was a show put on for the dumb masses to consume some drama.

              Where is this anti-communist act today, it has been shredded because communists run the whole place now. Even at the time the FBI stood up for the communists because they were already infiltrated.

              “There was much controversy surrounding the Act. The Federal Bureau of Investigation and its Director, J. Edgar Hoover, opposed the bill on the count that it would have forced the Communist movement underground”

              There is no collective greed, greed is individual. It is true that the communists use political parasites to play on some people’s greed to get something for nothing pushing for more communism.

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                Sure, “the bad guys do it but there is no way I, an intelligent person, may be fooled buy the same artifice”, am I right?

                We can debate all day, but I’m still waiting for any evidence of what you pretend. Or should I? Is it a gut feeling? Maybe a hearsay from whatever political circle you are from? I’m curious.

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                  There isn’t one piece of “evidence” that concludes how the whole scam system functions. It is a conclusion based on years of evidences I have seen. Life is too complex to boil down to a single factoid, that would be completely irrational to base everything on. Even if such a single piece existed you would just dismiss it anyway because it would contradict your belief structure.

                  Our beliefs and ideas are formed through experience and exposure over long periods. The important part is does your conception of the world make you successful, independent, and content, or fearful, dependent, and subservient.

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                    As you said, life is complex, and my own experience is not enough to say if X or Y is corrupt or not (I would rather say that most are somewhat in the middle), but so are you. I’d rather trust independent investigation press, which job is precisely to investigate and expose corruption where it exist. Unfortunately in the US, there is very little law to prevent press owned by political parties and their affiliate to push a political agenda.

                    You’d be probably surprised by how your contradictors can be open to dialog. I’m just curious about your evidence and experiences. I offered you some of mine, from what I consider as being reputable and independent sources (note that I did not go directly to a government website, like you are, I am cautious about what any government would say as there is a clear risk of conflict of interest). But if your evidences are so brittle that they wouldn’t stand debate, I’m sorry to tell you, but anyone would be a fool to believe them.

                    Moreover, I do know a lot more about the bank side than you may think. As an IT worker I worked nearly half my career for banks, I’ve seen their process (as I translated them to code), met all kind of people, from high level bankers to low level employee. Like everyone, they have biased view of the world around them, forged from their respective life, and they take teir decision according to that. But something I can be sure of, none of them have a once of communist ideology in them. If it isn’t a regulation imposed by the legislator (environmental, fraud prevention, etc.) everything has one and only one objective: make as much money as possible while limiting risks to a reasonable minimum. Which is kinda the definition of capitalism, to my knowledge.