Hi im looking for a european alternative for my browser. I understand that basically all browser are either chromium or Firefox based. I heard mozilla is also going through their own enshittificafion so im looking for a european alternatieve
I would probably still prefer a Firefox based browser over a chromium based one, because … you know… Google.
Ive find librewolf to be the only real alternative but also heard good things about Zen Browser. But for The life of me, I cannot find where ‘The zen browser team’ Company is based or operaties from.
Does any one know this? Any other tips or suggestions are also welcome.
My personal preference is Librewolf. Not sure about Zen, hopefully someone else will jump in
Seconded for Librewolf
Thanks, ill start testing in out!
Zen browser is an open source project based on Firefox, there’s no company behind it, just random people all over the world.
As of a few weeks ago it is correct
Before that it was all one dude maubg on reddit. Dude is Spanish for as much as I could find out.
I found Zen when it was pre alpha. Because I loved Arc but didn’t like how the browser company pushed Ai.
I was never a browser poweruser, but zen has made me one. Really loving it so far coming from Firefox.
Really love(d) using it too the last week, but I can’t live with the horrendous font rendering. Especially small/thin or light text on dark background (darkmode themes). Luckily the latest FF releases are adding a lot of vertical tab related functionality, theres tab groups and you can hide the title bar now.
Waterfox is one option. its UK based. I find it a little faster than librefox out of the. I use the container tabs extensively for my IT work juggling dozens of customer login details and profiles.
+1 for Waterfox
Have a look at Mullvad browser made by a Swedish company.
I haven’t been able to confirm precisely, but the Midori browser appears to be from Spain or at least Europe. Their website only comes in English/Español and the only events they have listed as attending have been in Germany. It’s Gecko-based, so it’s “Firefox-ish”. It also takes Firefox add-ins, which is nice.
I’ve been using it for a couple weeks now and it’s been working fine. Spotify hiccups on it, but that’s the only site I go to regularly that doesn’t like it.
Glad to see Midori is still active. I used it for a time 15 years ago and really liked it. Not sure about Astian, but I might have to take a look for myself soon.
Just my 2 cents as a web developer… I don’t have any reason to quit Firefox (or Thunderbird). Yes the hole communication about PPA was a disaster and opt out is not ideal, but on the other hand the Gecko engine is so important for the open web. Without Mozilla it will surely die soon. So we end up with Blink and Webkit, both controlled by US big tech companies.
So, is it really such a good idea to penalize Mozilla in the long term? I don’t think so.
If PPA really is unacceptable for you, opt out. At least its a good idea to read about this standard and then make a decision.
I’m not sure if their PPA is actually that bad. I hear that some people say that its ‘the final straw’ in a slippery slope, but must admit that i’m not so sure if its really that bad.
i think vivaldi and ecosia browsers are also european
Vivaldi is chromium-based (not FF-based) and it is European ;)
I use Startpage, a dutch alternative. Pretty basic but solid browsing.
at least partially owned by an American advertising company.
