• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    19 hours ago

    i’m gonna lean on the side of “fuck that shit” on this one. buying a tesla is a choice. maga are terrorizing people for things they didn’t choose like skin color, gender, sexual orientation, etc, and that list will only get longer

    fuck tesla, and fuck tesla buyers. unlike their holy godman idol musk, i value empathy. but not for people who pridefully show none of it themselves

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      16 hours ago

      For many of us we’ve had our vehicles for a long time before Elon went dipshit crazy. For some it’s because EVs were essentially dogshit before the Model 3 was introduced. Either short range grocery getters or expensive luxury. Even now most “electrified” vehicles everyone advertises are hybrids, not EVs.

      I got my Model 3 near the end of 2018. Elon wasn’t posting far right and Nazi shit at that time. He was sort of controversial, but that was about it.

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        13 hours ago

        That’s why I don’t have ill will for people for having a non cybertruck Tesla unless you can tell it’s new. But if you don’t have an anti elon sticker I’m starting to side eye them

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          My rich oral surgeon friend bought a Tesla really early on way before Elon showed us who he really was. My friend has a sticker on his Tesla S that says “I bought this before we knew he was crazy”.

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          12 hours ago

          But if you don’t have an anti elon sticker I’m starting to side eye them

          I don’t have a sticker, only because I don’t like stickers or badging on my vehicles at all. My Model 3 was early enough that they didn’t even have the Dual Motor badging for them in stock. They brought the badging to me at some point about a year later when the Rangers came to a tire rotation in my yard, there wasn’t even have a full Service Center here yet. I didn’t have them actually install the badging, it’s still in my glovebox. It’s as low key as I can make the damned thing.

          But that’s a major contributing factor to my looking at alternative options now instead of when it’s fully paid off in September. The swastikar is becoming a target, and I don’t want to have to deal with shit just because Elon’s a Nazi. Got a test drive setup next week for a Polestar 3, and if I fits and I likes, going to be looking at that probably, especially with their added discounts and bonus for leasing and currently owning a Tesla. Most other manufacturer vehicles I’d consider are at least 1-2 years away still, so a 27 month lease is just about perfect for filling that gap, and making a decision then. Would still be less than I’m paying for my Model 3 with those discounts.

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        13 hours ago

        Yeah, I’m sure a lot of people are in that unfortunate situation. I can’t imagine the trade in value is improved. Sorry you’re getting shit for buying a vehicle that was supposed to be less harmful to the environment, I guess the lesson is avoid musk products.

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          12 hours ago

          The model 3 was designed and marketed to be an affordable EV, and is still one of the cheaper options on the market.

          Do you think any new vehicle is a luxury item?

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      A lot of regular Tesla owners genuinely didn’t know a ton about the company and until the last few years Musk wasn’t quite so openly a Nazi.

      I have zero sympathy for Cybertruck owners but I am going to wait to reserve judgement on average Tesla owners until I have proof it was bought recently and that they are okay with Musk as he is.

      The reality is some people can’t just up and trade in the car as easily as they might want to, even if they hate Musk and all he stands for now.

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        I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, except that we should be doing everything possible to drive down their value. The less value they have the less Tesla is worth. Ideally people sell their Teslas used, driving the used cost down, making anyone looking to buy one still consider that instead of giving money to the company. We can have people who still support Tesla not giving money to them potentially.

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        People with ordinary Teslas might have bought them before Musk was a total ass. And apart from some dumb ideas like steering yokes and poor emergency releases and build quality they’re not that bad.

        The Cybertruck is objectively bad and deserves ridicule regardless of what Lengthy Nutria does.

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          13 hours ago

          Musk was always a total ass. Agree maybe ppl were unaware until recently though

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        I have a Tesla (2017). Had no idea who this guy was at the time, I just liked the idea of an electric vehicle, and buying into a future without ICE. Cars been great, company not so much.

        Musk can go to hell though that’s for sure

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        18 hours ago

        Model Y Juniper just started shipping this month. Its a glaring sign that says they bought it after everything Musk did.

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        19 hours ago

        fair enough. i still say fuck’em. there are many more people much more deserving of my sympathy than fucking tesla owners

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      There’s tesla buyers who dont even know who musk is or what he does/owns. I dont know who owns BMW, Ford, Volkswagen etc. People could easily decide to buy a tesla and not know.

      And using hate to fight hate isn’t always the best, these maga fucks will just use it as fuel for their regime, embarassing them is a much better way, stickers etc sure, but you shouldnt be physically violent to the person.

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        There’s tesla buyers who dont even know who musk is or what he does/owns.

        Citation??

        Or, you just guessing based on the sentence that follows… 🤔

        I’d bet significant money that 99.999% of rational car-buying adults know the relationship Musk/Tesla. 🤷‍♂️

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          7 hours ago

          The internet isn’t real life.

          How surprised were you at the last few US elections? Tells you everything you need to know about how uninformed the majority is.

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            Yeah. You know the saying “living under a rock”? The people in this thread have never even looked under the rock.

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          Prove there isnt. Just because we sit on the internet well connected, doesnt mean the average joe is. As I was saying about not knowing who owns other automotive companies, can you name them all? Can you tell me all their political views? It’s not too hard to imagine someone buying a tesla without researching the company, come on.

          And anyone who does or did know about musk owning them before, could have bought the car before he became a prolific nazi. You cant be serious if you think every tesla owner did deep research into elon musk. Thats so out of touch.

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        “There’s tesla buyers who dont even know who musk is or what he does”

        I’m going to have to call bs on that.

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          18 hours ago

          Preordered 2016, bought in 2018 well before he was out of the Nazi closet.

          Had service done in 2022, this is how my service advisor signed his fucking email.

          It’s embarassing.

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          18 hours ago

          Seems unlikely when exposed to communities like this online, seems very likely when you talk to people who dont go online much.

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            17 hours ago

            The man is being covered on literally every news source, print, radio, television, and internet

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            He is (or was) the richest man in the world. You’d have to be living under a rock to not know who he is

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              I think the fact that GOPers get elected even by the people the GOPers are actively screwing shows that under-rock housing is very common.

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              You’d be surprised then. Bill Gates was the richest man and not everyone knew him either. Warren Buffett was too and even less knew him.

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        7 hours ago

        You can get a two year old Model 3 under $20,000.

        Which is a very reasonable price for a family car in 2025.

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        Tesla is a premium product at best, they absolutely aren’t a luxury item. The S and X possibly, but most of the vehicles they sell aren’t particularly expensive.

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            First of all, $42,000 is very average for a basic family car nowadays.

            Second of all, with incentives and tax credits, that’s more like $30,000-$35,000 depending where you live.

            Third of all, owning an EV is considerably cheaper than owning a dino-burner. No oil changes. No fluid changes. You charge at home for an order of magnitude cheaper than gas (unless you buy one of those GM cinderblock Hummers or F150s something equally stupid American). A $42,000 car with no scheduled maintenance, fuel costs, or mechanical repairs is surprisingly affordable compared to a dino-burner at the same sticker price.

            Fourth of all, even at only two years old, you can pretty easily and regularly find Model 3s for sale at 50% or more depreciation from new. Add in the tax credit for used EVs and a 2 year old family sedan for $17,500 with no gas or oil changes to ever buy starts to become a pretty good deal.

            Fifth of all, I cannot stress enough how completely unwilling most people are to completely reverse direction on a $xx,xxx financial commitment because it suddenly becomes a fad among internet nerds to get pissed off about it. If you people would step outside yourselves for five goddamn seconds and look at what you’re doing, I would be so happy.

            Elon blows goats. Fuck up his goat farm. Don’t fuck over regular people just living their lives.

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            42 thousand for a brand new vehicle, and you think that’s a luxury item?

            Bear in mind, the idea of an electric vehicle is you pay more up front, and less in running costs.