• grue@lemmy.ml
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    they are materially worse than other consumer vehicles

    Not in the way that actually matters, which is their effect on low-density zoning and minimum parking requirements. A parking space is a parking space is a parking space — they’re all (roughly) the same size!

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      Have you never had to street park a vehicle or are you a complete moron?

      2023 Dodge ram 3500 shortest length is 232", longest is 260.8". 2023 VW golf is 168.9".

      That’s over 5 feet longer at minimum and over 7.5 feet longer at worst. That’s a huge amount of wasted space.

      They’re wider meaning they cramp the roads horizontally as well (while driving or parked).

      There’s no logical defense of these compensation-mobiles other than “I like them” and that’s fine, you’re allowed to like them. Leave it at that. They’re objectively terrible for the safety of everyone around them and are a complete waste of space.

      I drove a Jeep Comanche for years and that’s as big a pickup as 99% of pickup owners would ever actually need.

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        Have you never had to street park a vehicle or are you a complete moron?

        Have you stopped beating your wife yet? (See, two can play the “bad-faith compound question” game.) Now fuck off with the childish insults.

        They’re wider meaning they cramp the roads horizontally as well (while driving or parked)

        A lane is a lane! The narrowest car and the widest car both take up one whole lane each. Unless it’s narrow enough to split the lane two abreast, it doesn’t fucking matter how wide it is!

        There’s no logical defense of these compensation-mobiles other than “I like them” and that’s fine, you’re allowed to like them. Leave it at that.

        Get some goddamn reading comprehension skills! The claim that I’m defending compensation-mobiles is a goddamn lie. I’m not defending large automobiles; I’m attacking all automobiles and questioning why others are not.

        What’s actually happening here is that others are trying to conjure up some artificial distinction between big trucks and the rest of the automotive infestation, most likely in order to deflect blame for their own still shitty and car-dependent midsize sedan (or whatever) lifestyle, and are butthurt that I’m not uncritically accepting it.

        The bottom line is that cars ruin cities. All cars, without exception! Anybody who denies that — i.e. anybody who tries to only complain about only a subset of the cars — is part of the problem.