• DMmeYourNudes@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    you need an account to go to an instance that isn’t federated. this is the core flaw that makes this entire system unusable for normal people. you don’t want to have multiple accounts just so you can post the same memes in 12 different servers to get 1/40th the interaction you would get if everyone was centralized. this isn’t a discord server, its a link aggregator and decentralizing the aggregator is antithetical to making this service work.

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        1 year ago

        it doesn’t mater what you like, if the platform can not grow from here, witch it can not in its current state, it will simply bleed users and die like voat.

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      Or just find an instance that has federation policies you agree with, you don’t need to post in every single instance - maybe some defederated because there were too many people posting the same shitty memes. And who needs 40x interaction? Reddit was too big, too many people competing for attention.

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        and then that instance get defederated by one of the big instances or has other performance issues because its not one of the big instances and now you’re stuck picking from the big instances if you want any kind of content and curation on a socialmedia platform built to centralize users into interest groups so they can curate and discuss content. but yeah, defederatino is good for that, lets you live in your completely unpopulated bubble.

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          Very hypothetical there, like you’re reaching for things that could go wrong.

          I know that centralisation doesn’t work because I’ve seen it turn the internet to shit over the last 15 years. If I had it my way we’d go back to small independent forums with no federation because they were much better communities. But in the name of progress, federation does have some advantages, but as soon as things start getting too big there should absolutely be defederation to prevent the platform from getting like Reddit.

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            im telling you things that are happening right not to various instances for various reasons, all of them down to the personal bias of the admins, not the consensus of the users in that instance.

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              Who says they need consensus? Instances are privately run, they don’t have to be democracies. Users can vote with their feet, so to speak.

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                yeah, the admins can just make unilateral changes to their platform, that isn’t the problem with every form of socialmedia, no, its something else.

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                  Correct, because it’s decentralised. It only becomes a problem when you have a monopoly of big centralised platforms.

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                    1 year ago

                    You fundamentally so not understand the problem with federation and the admins. Is not a good thing just because it is, it’s the same problem, in a different coat.

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            To be honest, if that person is so keen on centralized platform, why are they even here? They should just go back to Reddit, they might come back here later

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              what was the centralized one everyone went to? squabbles?

              wait nope the admin turned out to be a free speech nutjob and everyone left. uhhh, discuit? i think that’s a thing?