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Theo world is much more unstable and unsafe since trump took office.
No it’s not. The fucking world is full of bad people doing bad things. THEY are making the world unstable and unsafe. Other countries can stand up and do shit if they think it’s bad.
I also believe in the principle of freedom and democracy and I think it’s sad to see it deteriorate,
It’s not deteriorating. The majority of American people wanted Trump in office, and they voted him in office. That’s democracy. If you don’t like it, then handle your shit in your own country the way you want things handled.
I guess I’m just interested too! :)
Which is awesome. I applaud that. But just so you know, Lemmy is NOT even close to having the opinions of the majority of Americans. Which is why so many on Lemmy were surprised that Trump won. Lemmy is out of touch with the average american, and most Americans have never even heard of Lemmy. Lemmy is a very very small extremes sample of people who don’t really know much about the average American way of life.
I don’t think so. I like him. Even tho I didn’t vote for him, I’m loving what he’s doing. And I’m loving watching Lemmy freak out about it all.
I could go on, I don’t expect to convince you.
Good choice.
I’m not willing to leave your lies laying undisturbed.
But I’m not lying about anything. I didn’t write the article, friend. Did you write to the publisher of the article and bring up your concerns with them?
Trump didn’t win a majority of votes.
He did. He won by both the electoral vote and the public vote. Every major news org, regardless of political leaning, agrees with that. Do you have proof? Please send that proof the news media!
Endless bloviation and vacuous lies from you and your ilk.
What have I lied about? I didn’t write the article.
You’re clearly not here to discuss facts. They don’t support your narrative.
You only have concepts of an idea and vibes regarding facts.
You continue to lie about basic numbers, engaging with you only serves to point the clown show out to others.
Trump didn’t win a majority and you’re a bald faced liar.
I agree trump was voted in democratically, in a fair election. I’ve only heard trump and his allies imply the election isn’t fair. It’s what trump does to break down the checks and balances which keeps his powers in check. That should be considered a problem by anyone, regardless of political affiliation.
We do democracy a little different from the US, and have many different parties with slightly different ideals. Contrary to the us system that inadvertently creates a two-party political landscape where only two party ideals can compete.
I’m very well aware Lenny is generally more left leaning, even for my country’s average citizen.
Contrary to the us system that inadvertently creates a two-party political landscape where only two party ideals can compete.
Which I oppose and still oppose. I didn’t vote for Trump. I actually voted for the Socialis Workers Party.
And i got banned from instances for advocating third party.
I’m actually a socialist. I appreciate the chaos Trump is causing though. Because the Democrats refused to do anything of value, and they just made fun of anyone who didn’t agree with them. And Democrates hate the idea of third-parties even more than the republicans do.
I was called a Nazi by Lemmy because I refused to vote for Harris. Even tho I would never vote for Trump either. lol
Yeah let’s hope the chaos will be a catalyst for things to change but I worry people with bad intentions are more prepared to use the situation.
Do you really believe the chaos is more likely to lead to something good, rather than break down the three-pillar checks and balances the founding fathers lined out? Trump obviously wants more power to the executive branch and has the blessing to ignore the judicial branch of government. And it might be hard to claw back once in the power balance has bern shifted.
The two party system is obviously flawed, when people choose to vote for some one-size-fits-all compromise instead of one mirroring their political views. Because that’s what is incentivized.
Lenny is pretty aggressive in its left leaning ideologies and I tend to lean the same way, but I also like to understand the other viewpoint.
You say you voted socialist, but you post a lot of conservative news. Why is that? Because you want to broaden the Lemmy political spectrum or what?
You say you voted socialist, but you post a lot of conservative news. Why is that? Because you want to broaden the Lemmy political spectrum or what?
That’s the exact reason. I don’t like how Lemmy tends to silence and try to outright ban conservative views, even if I don’t share them.
Before the election, I was on .world. And active in the c/politics community. I created and modded several Socialist Workers Party communities (which are still up and which I still mod on other instances). I talked about how I advocated third-party.
I said I was going to vote socialist party. And I got sooo may hateful comments. Much more hateful comments from liberals on lemmy than any conservatives.
And I eventually got banned for my views. And that banning was celebrated. And to this day, people STILL want to ban me.
But look at my posts. None have ever advocated violence. None have ever advocated anything radical. I post articles.
Regularly there are entire threads out to ban me from the fediverse. Why? Because I didn’t vote liberal and I advocate opposing viewpoints.
Lemmy insured that I will never ever vote democrat. Ever. I have never seen as much hate and name calling as I have here on Lemmy. People advocate violence, shooting rich people, shooting trump, everything. There are calls to ban all conservative communities from lemmy.
In fact, Lemmy does the very thing they they accuse republicans of: silencing opposing views.
Heres one of the posts calling to ban me. Feel free to check out every comment and post I’ve made and see if you see any reason for a permanent ban. lol
No it’s not. The fucking world is full of bad people doing bad things. THEY are making the world unstable and unsafe. Other countries can stand up and do shit if they think it’s bad.
It’s not deteriorating. The majority of American people wanted Trump in office, and they voted him in office. That’s democracy. If you don’t like it, then handle your shit in your own country the way you want things handled.
Which is awesome. I applaud that. But just so you know, Lemmy is NOT even close to having the opinions of the majority of Americans. Which is why so many on Lemmy were surprised that Trump won. Lemmy is out of touch with the average american, and most Americans have never even heard of Lemmy. Lemmy is a very very small extremes sample of people who don’t really know much about the average American way of life.
Trump is making things unsafe and lying. His lies regarding Ukraine are destabilizing the world, by victim blaming.
His words are blaming Ukraine for being attacked.
I could go on, I don’t expect to convince you. Other people stumble across your self hatred and mistake it for honest discussion.
I’m not willing to leave your lies laying undisturbed.
Trump didn’t win a majority of votes. Check your lies again.
Any forum you encounter is a small slice of society.
Endless bloviation and vacuous lies from you and your ilk.
I don’t think so. I like him. Even tho I didn’t vote for him, I’m loving what he’s doing. And I’m loving watching Lemmy freak out about it all.
Good choice.
But I’m not lying about anything. I didn’t write the article, friend. Did you write to the publisher of the article and bring up your concerns with them?
He did. He won by both the electoral vote and the public vote. Every major news org, regardless of political leaning, agrees with that. Do you have proof? Please send that proof the news media!
What have I lied about? I didn’t write the article.
As noted, not here to convince you. You’re obvious propaganda. I hope your opinion keeps you warm at night.
A quick check of my statements show numerous articles supporting my statements, including the raw numbers. Trump did NOT win a Majority of votes.
Here Let me google that for you, since you’re having trouble and conflating facts from fiction. Did trump win vote majority what does that mean?
Since you seem to be ignoring obvious facts, I’ll help you find what your dictator fellating seems to have blinded you to.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/16/g-s1-38003/trump-mandate-presidents
You’re clearly not here to discuss facts. They don’t support your narrative.
You only have concepts of an idea and vibes regarding facts. You continue to lie about basic numbers, engaging with you only serves to point the clown show out to others.
Trump didn’t win a majority and you’re a bald faced liar.
Elsewhere in this thread they casually clued us all in to not being interested in facts. In case you missed it (emphasis mine):/
Fair point. I rather enjoy, watching the insane pretzel that is the vacuousness of this bot, wasting their time.
I didn’t write the article. I just posted a link to it. People don’t have to click on the link.
I sleep awesome and have an awesome life, thank you!
So why does the major news media disagree with you? Is AP News propaganda too?
Yeah he did. And now he’s president. Accept it, friend. Thanks!
Thanks for supporting your statements with bad vibes and no links.
The conversation has progressed past your initial article post.
lolol Trump won and you are really mad. LMAO
Stay mad. I’m not going to stop posting. He won the election and the majority vote and the electoral vote.
Y u mad?
More bad vibes, no facts to back up your majority claim?
I provided facts and links. What strawman are you celebrating?
I’ve seen you claim previously you prefer honest discourse and review.
Obviously your comments in this chain reveal that fallacy. Will you salute to your king too?
Wikipedia: Trump won the national popular vote with a plurality of 49.8%,[25] making him the first Republican to do so since George W. Bush in 2004.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-did-donald-trump-lose-the-popular-vote-by-two-percent-in-the-2024-election/ar-AA1v7Pik
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/11/trump-won-the-popular-vote-contrary-to-claims-online/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/11/14/trump-popular-vote-majority-fact-check/76259957007/
Dude, Trump won. Accept it.
Democrats are on their way to losing the next election too. LMAO
I agree trump was voted in democratically, in a fair election. I’ve only heard trump and his allies imply the election isn’t fair. It’s what trump does to break down the checks and balances which keeps his powers in check. That should be considered a problem by anyone, regardless of political affiliation.
We do democracy a little different from the US, and have many different parties with slightly different ideals. Contrary to the us system that inadvertently creates a two-party political landscape where only two party ideals can compete.
I’m very well aware Lenny is generally more left leaning, even for my country’s average citizen.
Which I oppose and still oppose. I didn’t vote for Trump. I actually voted for the Socialis Workers Party.
And i got banned from instances for advocating third party.
I’m actually a socialist. I appreciate the chaos Trump is causing though. Because the Democrats refused to do anything of value, and they just made fun of anyone who didn’t agree with them. And Democrates hate the idea of third-parties even more than the republicans do.
I was called a Nazi by Lemmy because I refused to vote for Harris. Even tho I would never vote for Trump either. lol
Yeah let’s hope the chaos will be a catalyst for things to change but I worry people with bad intentions are more prepared to use the situation.
Do you really believe the chaos is more likely to lead to something good, rather than break down the three-pillar checks and balances the founding fathers lined out? Trump obviously wants more power to the executive branch and has the blessing to ignore the judicial branch of government. And it might be hard to claw back once in the power balance has bern shifted.
The two party system is obviously flawed, when people choose to vote for some one-size-fits-all compromise instead of one mirroring their political views. Because that’s what is incentivized.
Lenny is pretty aggressive in its left leaning ideologies and I tend to lean the same way, but I also like to understand the other viewpoint.
You say you voted socialist, but you post a lot of conservative news. Why is that? Because you want to broaden the Lemmy political spectrum or what?
That’s the exact reason. I don’t like how Lemmy tends to silence and try to outright ban conservative views, even if I don’t share them.
Before the election, I was on .world. And active in the c/politics community. I created and modded several Socialist Workers Party communities (which are still up and which I still mod on other instances). I talked about how I advocated third-party.
I said I was going to vote socialist party. And I got sooo may hateful comments. Much more hateful comments from liberals on lemmy than any conservatives.
And I eventually got banned for my views. And that banning was celebrated. And to this day, people STILL want to ban me.
But look at my posts. None have ever advocated violence. None have ever advocated anything radical. I post articles.
Regularly there are entire threads out to ban me from the fediverse. Why? Because I didn’t vote liberal and I advocate opposing viewpoints.
Lemmy insured that I will never ever vote democrat. Ever. I have never seen as much hate and name calling as I have here on Lemmy. People advocate violence, shooting rich people, shooting trump, everything. There are calls to ban all conservative communities from lemmy.
In fact, Lemmy does the very thing they they accuse republicans of: silencing opposing views.
Heres one of the posts calling to ban me. Feel free to check out every comment and post I’ve made and see if you see any reason for a permanent ban. lol
One of the posts to ban me (Universal Monk):