I don’t agree that covid was a representative “test run” of suffering we’re willing to tolerate, because I think 1% of people with 100% suffering (i.e. death) is not the same as 99% of people with, let’s say 50% suffering (losing jobs, not having enough food, poor healthcare). Like it or not, for most people, covid was a minor inconvenience. For most people it did amount to a flu. But this presidency is poised to be much more impactful to more people, IMO. And I think that will make a huge difference in how red states react.
Like it or not, for most people, covid was a minor inconvenience. For most people it did amount to a flu.
I think your COVID denialist is showing a bit. The impact of the virus itself isn’t what I was writing about. They were running large amounts of con job and swindle programs and engaging in what would best be described as crisis capitalism. That’s what I’m talking about. If you seriously think the red states – the very same red states that voted a guy back in that had run the cupboards bare and sold off whatever wasn’t nailed down, used the pandemic to pitch beans to the public, and then tried to stay in office by throwing a coup – are going to ever come around to acknowledge that they were swindled by this loser and turn on him en masse, I’m not sure what to tell you.
I’d like to request that you please read my posts in full before responding, and don’t skim it and assume you understand the jist of what I’m saying. This method is failing you.
I think your COVID denialist is showing a bit
I’m not saying covid was equivalent to the flu, I’m saying that for the vast majority of cases, it didn’t progress to be life threatening. That’s just the data.
My point is, that makes a big difference when you’re talking about people who ignore data and don’t have empathy outside their in-group. What they see every day matters more than what anyone tells them, or what theoretical people are experiencing. And once the full economic impact of these executive orders becomes felt, it’s going to affect almost everyone far more than a being “out sick” for a couple weeks. They won’t have jobs, they won’t be able to afford food, it’s not something they will be able to ignore.
If you seriously think the red states…are going to ever come around to acknowledge that they were swindled by this loser and turn on him en masse, I’m not sure what to tell you.
Again, his core base will buy into his rhetoric for sure, they’ll get grifted to their grave. But his core base didn’t get him elected, people voting against inflation did, and rhetoric won’t put food on their table, that’s why Harris lost.
Those who voted against inflation are on their last leg as it is. 10 years ago 70% of the US was living paycheck to paycheck, 5 years ago credit card debt began to spike, today the general population holds more debt than our entire GDP. Most people simply don’t have the luxury of being complacent during this term. Protests today won’t fizzle, they’ll progress into civil unrest. And Trump has made it clear by the amount of power he’s consolidating under the executive branch that he has no intention of ceding power in a future election, so he’s going to be the one most people blame for the situation. Not his base, but most people.
I don’t remember a flu causing massive shutdowns throughout the country, empty downtowns, bank runs, empty store shelves, rampant price gouging, large bailouts for industry, an entire program setup to enrich the already rich by raiding the treasury, a massive grifter program for “small business”, large scale free vaccination programs, etc etc etc.
You’re not reading my posts and then claiming I’m skimming yours. The US hasn’t seen the type of large scale unrest you’re predicting here in a hundred years, and this dude’s approval ratings are up, not down.
Everything seems to indicate that people will indeed continue to tolerate things getting worse, and that they will continue to blame the unfortunate for their own misfortune.
I don’t agree that covid was a representative “test run” of suffering we’re willing to tolerate, because I think 1% of people with 100% suffering (i.e. death) is not the same as 99% of people with, let’s say 50% suffering (losing jobs, not having enough food, poor healthcare). Like it or not, for most people, covid was a minor inconvenience. For most people it did amount to a flu. But this presidency is poised to be much more impactful to more people, IMO. And I think that will make a huge difference in how red states react.
I think your COVID denialist is showing a bit. The impact of the virus itself isn’t what I was writing about. They were running large amounts of con job and swindle programs and engaging in what would best be described as crisis capitalism. That’s what I’m talking about. If you seriously think the red states – the very same red states that voted a guy back in that had run the cupboards bare and sold off whatever wasn’t nailed down, used the pandemic to pitch beans to the public, and then tried to stay in office by throwing a coup – are going to ever come around to acknowledge that they were swindled by this loser and turn on him en masse, I’m not sure what to tell you.
I’d like to request that you please read my posts in full before responding, and don’t skim it and assume you understand the jist of what I’m saying. This method is failing you.
I’m not saying covid was equivalent to the flu, I’m saying that for the vast majority of cases, it didn’t progress to be life threatening. That’s just the data.
My point is, that makes a big difference when you’re talking about people who ignore data and don’t have empathy outside their in-group. What they see every day matters more than what anyone tells them, or what theoretical people are experiencing. And once the full economic impact of these executive orders becomes felt, it’s going to affect almost everyone far more than a being “out sick” for a couple weeks. They won’t have jobs, they won’t be able to afford food, it’s not something they will be able to ignore.
Again, his core base will buy into his rhetoric for sure, they’ll get grifted to their grave. But his core base didn’t get him elected, people voting against inflation did, and rhetoric won’t put food on their table, that’s why Harris lost.
Those who voted against inflation are on their last leg as it is. 10 years ago 70% of the US was living paycheck to paycheck, 5 years ago credit card debt began to spike, today the general population holds more debt than our entire GDP. Most people simply don’t have the luxury of being complacent during this term. Protests today won’t fizzle, they’ll progress into civil unrest. And Trump has made it clear by the amount of power he’s consolidating under the executive branch that he has no intention of ceding power in a future election, so he’s going to be the one most people blame for the situation. Not his base, but most people.
I don’t remember a flu causing massive shutdowns throughout the country, empty downtowns, bank runs, empty store shelves, rampant price gouging, large bailouts for industry, an entire program setup to enrich the already rich by raiding the treasury, a massive grifter program for “small business”, large scale free vaccination programs, etc etc etc.
You’re not reading my posts and then claiming I’m skimming yours. The US hasn’t seen the type of large scale unrest you’re predicting here in a hundred years, and this dude’s approval ratings are up, not down.
Everything seems to indicate that people will indeed continue to tolerate things getting worse, and that they will continue to blame the unfortunate for their own misfortune.