• imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
    27·
    9 hours ago

    Lol okay.

    China and Russia would never dream of using digital psyops to destabilize western nations. That would be fighting dirty, and they don’t do such things 😂

    This is also how I know that every hexbear user is a 100% real and based authentic transgender leftist and there is no chance that any of them have nefarious intentions. Because no one has ever lied or trolled on the internet before, as we are both aware.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
      2·
      2 hours ago

      Dang, you know, one of the criticisms of Xi I thought was actually valid was his stance on LGBT issues but if you’re telling me he’s actively promoting queerness to people in the West, that’s based AF, more power to him.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
      103·
      9 hours ago

      You don’t have any evidence of your conspiracy theory, just a distrust of Russia and China, or rather a trust in their anti-US stance. Fair enough. Where you go into transphobic conspiracy theory is when you then completely invent the idea that both of these countries are pushing “gender politics” as a wedge issue. The only purpose this serves, without any proof, is to undermine the experience of gender-nonconforming people. Russia in particular is extremely socially conservative, further adding to why this is akin to Q-Anon nonsense.

      You’re just doubling down on the transphobia at this point by automatically distrusting and attempting to discredit trans users. I recommend you talk to actual trans people and see what they think about suspecting they might be lying about their identities just because you disagree politically.

      • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
        26·
        8 hours ago

        I know actual trans people you clown. What you’re saying is nonsensical, if I know them IRL then I obviously know they’re actually trans. Why would you suggest that I gaslight my friends, what the hell is wrong with you?

        On the other hand, if it’s just an anonymous username on hexbear constantly calling everyone else transphobic, even people that are clearly allies and trying to express support, then I’ll remain skeptical.

        Your comment is textbook circular reasoning 101. They are trans because they claim to be trans and thus its transphobic of me to question that. I’m not automatically distrusting or discrediting anybody based on them being trans or not.

        The behavior that concerns me is the people who constantly attack everyone else, including trans positive allies, other trans people, and other leftists, and then when they get called out on their hateful and self-destructive behavior, they claim transphobia. And furthermore, even for those who are trans, it’s not transphobic to tell a trans person they’re acting like an asshole and they should do better.

        You seem extremely confused. Russia and China are both extremely socially conservative. They are pushing the transgender topic in foreign countries while having absolutely zero tolerance for transgender people domestically. Does your brain work at all? You think because they’re socially conservative they wouldn’t consider using transgender ideology as a weapon and wedge topic? That’s literally the exact reason why they are using it, because they don’t actually care about helping trans people so they are free to infiltrate and destroy the movement from within, without caring about the consequences.

        Imagine saying well the US is very economically capitalist, so they would never consider infiltrating foreign communist political movements and intentionally destabilizing them. Like hello?

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          72·
          7 hours ago

          That’s pretty clearly not what I was saying. I mean talk to transgender people and ask how they feel about constantly suspecting either transgender people you disagree with politically are lying about being trans, or that Russia and China are trying to manipulate them. This is directly undermining and delegitimizing trans expression online, rule number 1 of being a trans ally is to not undermine people that say they are trans.

          They are trans because they say they are, yes. It is nobody’s place to judge, this kind of thinking that you can be the arbiter of who is or isn’t trans is transphobic.

          As for Russia and China, they are in different leagues socially, Russia is far worse while one of the top celebrities in China, Jin Xing, is trans. This would be unheard of in Russia. Moreover, you assert full belief in them “pushing the transgender topic,” despite no evidence whatsoever, beyond “do you think they wouldn’t?” We know the US pushes anticommunism, this is well-documented, and moreover isn’t related to gender identity but blanket opposition.

          You are accused of not being an ally because, frankly, you do the job of transphobes for them. You play right into MAGA Q-Anon hands.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
              51·
              7 hours ago

              Not from the country, nor do I know why you seem to hate people from the country, nor am I paid nor a shill. Guess we can add more baseless accusations and outlashes when getting called out to your list.

              • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
                23·
                7 hours ago

                An uninformed, unsophisticated, or unintelligent person.

                You act like you were born yesterday with some of these takes. It’s impossible to tell over the internet whether you’re actually that naive, or if it’s a deliberate charade.