• DigitalDilemma@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    It’s not google’s fault. It was told to do so and has. Does anyone seriously expect them not to have done this?

    Every American company, or company doing business in America, needs to toe the line of an unpredictable and vindictive president, especially one as fat and tempting as Google.

    Now there’ll be a disconnect in mapping between what some sources say and what others do, but anyone with a little history knowledge knows this isn’t the first time.

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      6 hours ago

      I’m not in the USA, I am not a US citizen. No reason I should be seeing this while I’m in the EU.

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        5 hours ago

        Look at the Falkland Islands. It does the exact same thing because the Argentinian government ordered them to. Google maps tries to stay apolitical, by abiding governments, and adding the non-globally recognised name in brackets.

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          4 hours ago

          The renaming isn’t internationally recognised, so shouldn’t be shown internationally.

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            4 hours ago

            There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of place names that are not internationally recognised around the world.

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      4 hours ago

      The renaming only applies to US federal agencies. Google is (supposedly) not a federal agency, so yes, it is their fault.

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        4 hours ago

        Google takes their place name data from the relevant country’s official government sources. That source data changed. This is exactly like when the previous administration renamed Mt McKinley to Denali.

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          4 hours ago

          They don’t have to do that, especially when the change is clearly for white supremacy purposes (like Denali being given its colonial name back). It’s their choice to be bootlickers.

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        7 hours ago

        look, fuck google for many reasons, but not this. this is just keeping your head down and trying to survive the shit storm.

        • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 hours ago

          this is just keeping your head down and trying to survive the shit storm

          They aren’t a mom&pop small bussiness, they are a multi-national multi-billion dollar conglomerate that spans almost the entire world. They can afford to take the risk. They can “lobby” (aka: bribe) the government and get them to back off. Also, as far as I know, there were no legal requirement of mapmakers to change it. It’s always legal under the first amendment for mapmakers to make an “incorrect” map.

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          5 hours ago

          When they start rounding up trans people and deporting them to concentration camps, I’ll remember that the person shoving me into the train is just trying to keep his head down and weather the storm.

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            5 hours ago

            oh, i can hear the violins playing now.

            of course you made this into something about trans people when it will likely be anyone who opposes them. ya’ll are gonna get slaughtered. wise up.

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            4 hours ago

            sure. whatever. fuck google. i’m definitely not here to defend google.

            it’s beginning to look like there is no helping you people though. it’s like you all just got here and you’re trying to convince the oldest grognard how bad things are. like, motherfucker, i’ve been here since 9/11.

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          5 hours ago

          In nazi Germany they had a name for those who kept their heads down and tried to survive the shitstorm. They were called Nazis.

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            not true. You should read what’s written back then

            not all Germans were considered NAZIs. Heck, not all Germans were even considered Germans.

            Why is everything black/white with lemmings?

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            2 hours ago

            To be fair, you shouldn’t call everyone a nazi.

            My grandparents ran away from the Japanese soldiers during the Japanese Invasion of China. Most of their village doesn’t consider them “collaborators” or “汉奸” (Han-Traitor). They did what they had to to survive. Fleeing from conflict is not the same as collaboration. Those who fled from the Taliban shouldn’t be labeled as “Islamic Extremists”. Ukranians who fled the draft shouldn’t be labeled as “Russian Sympathizers”.

            But that’s only for individuals, civillians, not corporations or politicians. Google definitely has no excuses. But the point I’m trying to make is: unless someone actually help the fascists, they shouldn’t be labeled as “nazis”. It’s not morally wrong to give in to human survival instincts and run away from conflict. If Anne Frank successfully fled nazi Germany, you wouldn’t call her a “nazi”, right?

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            5 hours ago

            ooo. somebody’s looking to score some upvotes for their virtue signaling.

            well, i’ll tell ya what boss… how about you get out there and start killing nazi’s then. otherwise you are one (by your own reasoning)

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            7 hours ago

            look, if you’re a soulless corporation just trying to deliver profits to shareholders, this is 100% the right move.

            the problem is not refusing to go along with some meaningless gesture based in ignorant nationalism. the problem is that we live in capitalism, where the right move is always the one that delivers profits. decisions lacking humanity are always going to get made. focusing on this nothingburger just distracts from the bigger picture.

            if you want results, destroy capitalism.

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              if you want results, destroy capitalism

              Says the person defending google…

              You don’t destroy capitalism by making concessions to mega-corp. If you truly want to destroy capitalism, you should be constantly taking every shot you can.

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                i’m not defending them. i’m just trying to temper your expectations. there’s a lot of uproar of pikachu shocked face stuff. it’s all symptoms of the illness. you will be slapping band aids on shit forever if you don’t attack the root cause of the illness.

                sometimes i think you all just want stuff to be outraged over. maybe you just like to post about it and get upvotes. maybe you just want to be part of an in-group.

                does that assumption bother you? because it bothers me that you think i’m pro-capitalism just because i won’t join in on your circle jerk.

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                  Reading through your post history I am inferring that you believe you’re smarter than everyone (due to pretty much a complete absence of any kind of snark for about a week. I didn’t go back further than that). I don’t believe you’re very smart. You’re the type of “leftist” that causes division amongst the left. That being said; yes, I believe you’re pro-capitalist. So with that, I block you.

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        4 hours ago

        How could they change it in Europe? It’s in the Americas?

        (Yeah, I’m being facetious, but changing maps depending on where you read them is just adding another layer of confusion)