During negotiations with the DNC and the Harris campaign, we were repeatedly told by interlocutors that Harris couldn’t meet any of our basic requests (a policy shift from Biden, a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, a statement distinguishing herself from Trump on Israel, or even a meeting with Michigan families who lost loved ones to Israeli bombs) because of AIPAC-aligned politicians like Fetterman, who might take to TV, rile up suburban white and Jewish voters, and fracture the party’s coalition in a swing state.
That political calculus alienated a key voting bloc, although likely not large enough to have shifted the ultimate election outcomes, that should be part of a durable Democratic majority. But few will ever be held accountable for that choice.
A Fetterman staffer condemning Uncommitted for not advocating for Palestinians ‘the right way’ is like an arsonist scolding the fire department for using the wrong hose.
That is what the right wants you to do. Find anyone to blame but them.
There was a huge propaganda campaign started specifically to get the centrists and undecideds to stay home.
Every election is going to be a repeat of this. Facebook, TV, YouTube, anyone who can push content is going to forever say both sides are bad. And people will listen to them no matter how educated they are because propaganda works.
Watch for it because they’ll probably do it again: A conflict that America is only peripherally responsible for and cannot stop, being pushed as the number one issue in the next elections.
The people who say Kamala ignored their issue? You vote down ticket for democrats and push those people to support your issue. This in turn pressures the president to support your issue.
The democrats definitely will not help. They’ll produce 6 unlikeable candidates and say, “well… These are the only people who could possibly be our president. Also the primary is pointless because of superdelegates and split voting so we’ll just go ahead and pick this one before 50% of the nation has even voted.”
Shit… Sorry, I can’t stay on topic because I’m impossibly cynical at this point. I’m still voting democrat because I refuse to sit out or actively support fascism, but I’m heartbroken over the situation we’re in.
I’m glad you genocide denying dogs lost, seriously. You say propaganda works on everyone but you and then start parroting the last disgusting bullshit propaganda to defend the Democrats actively committing a genocide that they could have stopped at any moment.
People tried to push them, they ignored it, under the reasoning that they’d vote for them anyway.
Then you should probably stop repeating genocide denial to defend people allied when ethnofascists.
Hahahha… I can tell from the ratio that people don’t agree with me, but you’re confused as shit.
I’m not a supporter of genocide or a genocide apologist. I’m a realist. There is no way that sitting out of an election in protest, or voting republican could have stopped the genocide.
The ONLY chance anyone had was to elect a Democrat majority and push hard on issues they care about. Protest in the streets to stop the genocide.
Look where we are now. Worse genocide by far and protests in the streets but instead of one coherent request in the protest you’ve got hundreds.
Please don’t:
Destroy social security Destroy the CDC while we have bird flu Destroy Education Rob the treasury Break agreements with every allied country Break the economy Ruin transgender lives Build concentration camps Go to war with all our previous allies for Greenland Support genocide Destroy civil rights Destroy the environment
See, genocide is still on my list… In fact if these were in proper order it would be top of the list. Call it a “least you can do” option for presidency.
But instead we need to fight for all these things and we’ve got you, who, I guess sat this one out on principal, calling me names for it.
Just because you’ve stopped denying the genocide now that Trump is in, doesn’t mean it’s “worse by far”. Fuck, people like you deserve Trump.
The fuck are you talking about? Israeli occupation forces are withdrawing, aid is flowing into the Strip, and the daily bombardment has stopped. Yeah, Trump keeps saying stupid and horrible shit, but the US occupying Gaza is about as likely as annexing Greenland.
Has the bombing really stopped? I’m legit asking because the news i read doesn’t say that.
Trump just gave them 8 billion more in arms deals. The peace agreement was violated immediately. I still see reports of IDF killing random people.
But without knowing someone from there its hard to know what is real. All news sources are biased one way or the other.
The genocide hasn’t stopped, but the genocide didn’t start on Oct 7th either.
But things are far better than they were before. Instead of constant bombardment, there are scattered incidents of violence. Israel continues to commit war crimes using US made weapons, continues to inflict violence in the West Bank and Syria and Lebanon as well as Gaza, and Trump is happy to facilitate the violence. This isn’t peace, but the ceasefire is saving lives.
Oh, so by your own admittion you had no idea what the facts on the ground were, but you went ahead and declared that it was “worse by far” based purely on the fact that it’s now someone you don’t like doing it.