Maybe everyone being anxious and depressed is healthy in a dying world.
I tried doing therapy for a while, just to realize everything that stresses me out are totally valid stressors and the solution isn’t to go to therapy but to change our economic system.
im so sick of this attitude. human history – no, the history of LIFE – has always been on the brink of destruction. the universe is cold, harsh, and awful. the challenge has ALWAYS been to find a way to live a meaningful life with the time you have here. i’m so sick of attitudes like this exploiting the fact that this isnt a utopia to excuse themselves from making positive changes in their own lives.
how the fuck are we going to create a society that isn’t soul crushing anyway?! is the first step to shit on all the therapists? systemic, societal issues are real barriers in our lives, but they are just BARRIERS. they make the job HARDER but not impossible. how do you think modern existential therapy came out of fucking AUSCHWITZ of all places? do you think they had it peachy?? was Frankl just scamming them?
the current president won the hearts of these magats by selling them the exact same fucking story you’re memeing about. “your misery is society’s fault” and then points the finger at a specific demographic. and these idiots eat that shit up. they never learned how to find meaning in their own lives so they turn to some charlatan who sells them a fantasy. do you really think Trump would have gotten elected if the populace were happy, healthy, and afraid of nothing?? do you really think Trump would have won if the magats went to therapy? THIS is the problem. THIS is why we’re in this mess.
i swear i just find this so absolutely disgusting, so insulting, to say that mental health is just “pills that trick your brain into thinking you dont hate it here”. this nonsense has NO place in a MH affirming community. go back to 4chan
Doctors, police, firefighters, soldiers etc all pass around a little dark humor now and then in an attempt to help deal with some of the shit they’re put through on a regular basis. This thread is simply that.
Please don’t take a meme so seriously. I don’t think anyone here, including the OP or myself believes that therapists are useless. Shit’s hard right now and it’s ok to vent. No disrespect intended.
I don’t know about healthy, but yeah it’s a totally reasonable reaction to what’s going on around us to feel despair, if you have any shred of empathy in your body. Therapy does keep me mostly sane from month to month but at this point I’m putting it on hold. I truly believe we’re going to be at war (real war, not culture war) with each other in the US within 5-10 years, so might have to start shifting the therapy money to physical fitness expenses, gear, and ammo. And I intend to start training like-minded people how to ‘protect themselves’ from the aggressors.
the solution isn’t to go to therapy but to change our economic system.
how’s that working out for you? the economic system hasn’t changed and you’re still miserable, right? what if you had more capacity to fight by effectively managing your stressors? wouldn’t that be preferable? or is change just too difficult and this is an easier story to tell yourself? my god this MH community is getting my blood boiling as bad as r/conservative.
Why so dismissive? This is a genuine concern and you’re kinda just doing the same dopamine game. (You even have a smiley face, you’re the happy one here!)
I just don’t understand why you come to a MH community to post anti-MH sentiment.
Can you at least acknowledge that your comment is not a MH affirming attitude? Or do you really not see it???
Mental health is different for everyone. But most stressors come from people’s economic situation, or the stress of abuse caused by someone else probably experiencing too many stressors.
For some people it’s healthier to ignore everything they can’t control, even if it effects them negatively. This helps people cope but also leads to an independent and solitary approach to mental health that I think we try to shoehorn too many people into, which helps keep us isolated and exploitable.
For some it’s better to stay present, aknowledge that the things that effect them negatively can be changed, even if they alone are powerless.
For me personally, what my comment was about, I didn’t like feeling helpless and checked out from reality (yes i know that’s not how everyone feels in this method)
As far as my misery, it’s a scale from depressed/hopeless to enraged/empowerd, and I haven’t been happy my entire life so that’s not really a concern for me. And i have realized my misery is because of all the horrible misery I have to witness in the world I was forced into. It’s completely unnecessary, its honestly offensive. We could have heaven on earth if we just fucking built it. And I beleive if more people felt like me we would fix these issues.
Maybe everyone being anxious and depressed is healthy in a dying world.
Nope, humans are normally very emotionally resilient, so all spikes in mood end within 3-4 months at worst. So persistent depressed mood is to be worked on
Anxiety is not the same as being stressed out about some stuff in life. Anxiety is catastrophizing very little problems (like thinking “they hate me” when someone replied 2 minutes late) until you are worn out and the day is ruined
I don’t know man. Humans have lived through some pretty harrowing stuff in the past, but I’m pretty sure this is the first period in history where humans know they’re teetering on the edge - hell, multiple edges - and not in a metaphysical way, but in a very real, tangible fashion that is essentially visible from day to day and getting worse all the time.
Realizing all of this while also struggling for your own survival seems like more than whatever our minds are meant to be able to cope with. I’m of the opinion that ‘depression’ in its myriad forms is a totally valid reaction to a dying, hostile world in which the future seems uncertain at best and positively dystopian at worst.
civilizations have known they were dying before, this time we have enough of a warning that longer term effects are starting to show in those that can’t find ways to cope (ignore the downfall) with it.
Nope, humans are normally very emotionally resilient, so all spikes in mood end within 3-4 months at worst.
I’m picturing someone giving this speech at Auschwitz.
It can actually get bad enough that constant despair is the completely normal reaction to your circumstances. And in case you haven’t noticed we’re building concentration camps RIGHT NOW. They just aren’t installing ovens. Yet.
Maybe everyone being anxious and depressed is healthy in a dying world.
I tried doing therapy for a while, just to realize everything that stresses me out are totally valid stressors and the solution isn’t to go to therapy but to change our economic system.
im so sick of this attitude. human history – no, the history of LIFE – has always been on the brink of destruction. the universe is cold, harsh, and awful. the challenge has ALWAYS been to find a way to live a meaningful life with the time you have here. i’m so sick of attitudes like this exploiting the fact that this isnt a utopia to excuse themselves from making positive changes in their own lives.
how the fuck are we going to create a society that isn’t soul crushing anyway?! is the first step to shit on all the therapists? systemic, societal issues are real barriers in our lives, but they are just BARRIERS. they make the job HARDER but not impossible. how do you think modern existential therapy came out of fucking AUSCHWITZ of all places? do you think they had it peachy?? was Frankl just scamming them?
the current president won the hearts of these magats by selling them the exact same fucking story you’re memeing about. “your misery is society’s fault” and then points the finger at a specific demographic. and these idiots eat that shit up. they never learned how to find meaning in their own lives so they turn to some charlatan who sells them a fantasy. do you really think Trump would have gotten elected if the populace were happy, healthy, and afraid of nothing?? do you really think Trump would have won if the magats went to therapy? THIS is the problem. THIS is why we’re in this mess.
i swear i just find this so absolutely disgusting, so insulting, to say that mental health is just “pills that trick your brain into thinking you dont hate it here”. this nonsense has NO place in a MH affirming community. go back to 4chan
Doctors, police, firefighters, soldiers etc all pass around a little dark humor now and then in an attempt to help deal with some of the shit they’re put through on a regular basis. This thread is simply that. Please don’t take a meme so seriously. I don’t think anyone here, including the OP or myself believes that therapists are useless. Shit’s hard right now and it’s ok to vent. No disrespect intended.
cheers friend
I don’t know about healthy, but yeah it’s a totally reasonable reaction to what’s going on around us to feel despair, if you have any shred of empathy in your body. Therapy does keep me mostly sane from month to month but at this point I’m putting it on hold. I truly believe we’re going to be at war (real war, not culture war) with each other in the US within 5-10 years, so might have to start shifting the therapy money to physical fitness expenses, gear, and ammo. And I intend to start training like-minded people how to ‘protect themselves’ from the aggressors.
how’s that working out for you? the economic system hasn’t changed and you’re still miserable, right? what if you had more capacity to fight by effectively managing your stressors? wouldn’t that be preferable? or is change just too difficult and this is an easier story to tell yourself? my god this MH community is getting my blood boiling as bad as r/conservative.
I hope the dopamine you got from shitting out this comment made you feel better :3
Why so dismissive? This is a genuine concern and you’re kinda just doing the same dopamine game. (You even have a smiley face, you’re the happy one here!)
I just don’t understand why you come to a MH community to post anti-MH sentiment.
Can you at least acknowledge that your comment is not a MH affirming attitude? Or do you really not see it???
Your comment came off as dismissive to me.
Mental health is different for everyone. But most stressors come from people’s economic situation, or the stress of abuse caused by someone else probably experiencing too many stressors.
For some people it’s healthier to ignore everything they can’t control, even if it effects them negatively. This helps people cope but also leads to an independent and solitary approach to mental health that I think we try to shoehorn too many people into, which helps keep us isolated and exploitable.
For some it’s better to stay present, aknowledge that the things that effect them negatively can be changed, even if they alone are powerless.
For me personally, what my comment was about, I didn’t like feeling helpless and checked out from reality (yes i know that’s not how everyone feels in this method)
As far as my misery, it’s a scale from depressed/hopeless to enraged/empowerd, and I haven’t been happy my entire life so that’s not really a concern for me. And i have realized my misery is because of all the horrible misery I have to witness in the world I was forced into. It’s completely unnecessary, its honestly offensive. We could have heaven on earth if we just fucking built it. And I beleive if more people felt like me we would fix these issues.
Different strokes for different folks
You know, pointing out that we’ve failed as a species isn’t the most MH affirming either.
at what point did i – you’re just trying to rile me up arent you
it worked, good job. i hope you’re proud
Literally right there.
Nope, humans are normally very emotionally resilient, so all spikes in mood end within 3-4 months at worst. So persistent depressed mood is to be worked on
Anxiety is not the same as being stressed out about some stuff in life. Anxiety is catastrophizing very little problems (like thinking “they hate me” when someone replied 2 minutes late) until you are worn out and the day is ruined
I don’t know man. Humans have lived through some pretty harrowing stuff in the past, but I’m pretty sure this is the first period in history where humans know they’re teetering on the edge - hell, multiple edges - and not in a metaphysical way, but in a very real, tangible fashion that is essentially visible from day to day and getting worse all the time.
Realizing all of this while also struggling for your own survival seems like more than whatever our minds are meant to be able to cope with. I’m of the opinion that ‘depression’ in its myriad forms is a totally valid reaction to a dying, hostile world in which the future seems uncertain at best and positively dystopian at worst.
civilizations have known they were dying before, this time we have enough of a warning that longer term effects are starting to show in those that can’t find ways to cope (ignore the downfall) with it.
When was the last time in human history we accurately knew the timeline for the extinction of our species?
I’m picturing someone giving this speech at Auschwitz.
It can actually get bad enough that constant despair is the completely normal reaction to your circumstances. And in case you haven’t noticed we’re building concentration camps RIGHT NOW. They just aren’t installing ovens. Yet.
To be fair, they might be installing ovens and we just don’t know about them yet.
Sounds like cope.
Have you considered that you might say edgy things because you use the dopamine it gives you as your own coping mechanism?
It is easier to blame everyone else for your problems.
There are healthier ways to feel good than trying to hurt others you have convinced yourself to hate.