What are your thoughts on Generative Machine Learning models? Do you like them? Why? What future do you see for this technology?

What about non-generative uses for these neural networks? Do you know of any field that could use such pattern recognition technology?

I want to get a feel for what are the general thoughts of Lemmy Users on this technology.

  • Belgdore@lemm.ee
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    1 hour ago

    Generative ai is just an advanced chat bot, a toy that uses too much power to be efficient.

    My personal experience is that any output has to be double checked and edited. It would be better to just do whatever I asked it to do from the beginning. When it can fact check itself and cite sources, then it might become useful.

    An ai that can comb through vast amounts of data and give an output of specific data relevant to the question presented than a generative ai might be useful. But it can’t analyze data very well at the current moment. It hallucinates too much.

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    2 hours ago

    I think it’s fine if used in moderation. I use mine for doing the mindless day-to-day stuff like writing cover letters or business-type emails. I don’t use it for anything creative though, just to free myself up to do that stuff.

    I also suck at coding so I use it to write little scripts and stuff. Or at least to do the framework and then I finish them off.

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    7 hours ago

    It’s bullshit. It’s inauthentic. It can be useful for chewing through data, but even then the output can’t be trusted. The only people I’ve met who are absolutely thrilled by it are my bosses, who are two of the most frustrating, stupid, pig-headed, petty people I’ve ever met. I wish it would go away. I’m quitting my job next week, taking a big paycut and barely being able to pay the bills, specifically because those two people are unbearable. They also insist that I use AI as much as possible.

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    6 hours ago

    I kinda wish we had one on lemmy that summarized articles since we dont have the userbase of reddit (theres always some dude summarizing the facts without the fluff in the comments) AI is good at summaries.

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      6 hours ago

      I straight up dont like reading most of these articles, its often written in a way that makes you stay on the page longer

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    8 hours ago

    I’m a layman in terms if AI but I think it can be a useful tool, if used in proper context. I use it when I struggle to find something by regular internet search. The fact you can search in a conversational style and specify as you go on what you need is great.

    I feel it is pushed into contexts where it has no place and where it’s usefulness is limited or counterproductive.

    Then there is the question of the inproper use of copyrighted material which is terrible

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    11 hours ago

    Actual piracy doesn’t bother me, but I’m supposed to care that a robot learned English by reading library books? Learning is what libraries are for. Yeah, the draw-anything robot can only draw The Simpsons because it’s seen The Simpsons. How else was it supposed to happen?

    Training is transformative use. You can’t spend a zillion compute-hours guessing the next word of a story, in such a way that it can fake Tolkien retelling Shrek as a rap battle, and claim that’s the same as LordOfTheRings.txt on an FTP server. What the network is and does will not substitute the original work. Not unless the Silmarillion had more swamp ogres than I’ve heard.

    Image stuff will become a brush that does whatever you tell it. Type the word “inks” and drag it over your sketch, and it’ll smooth out your lines. Type the word “photorealistic” and it’ll turn your blocky shading into unreasonably good lighting. None of this prevents human art. The more you put in, the more you get out. Stable Diffusion is a denoiser, where the concept of noise can be defined as bad anatomy.

    Video stuff might end Hollywood, as soon as editors figure out they’ve inherited the Earth. The loosest animatics can become finished shots without opening Blender or picking up a camera. A static image of what a character looks like should be enough to say, this stick figure is that guy. Or this actor is that cartoon character. Or this cardboard cutout is that approaching spaceship. The parts that don’t look like that are noise, and get removed. We’re rapidly going to learn how blobby and blurry an input can be, for the machine to export a shot from your head, just the way you imagine it. And where it’s not exactly what you intended - neither is any shot ever filmed. A film only exists in the edit. So anyone who can string together some already-spooky output, based on the stories they’d like to tell, is going to be a studio unto themselves.

  • nebula42@lemmy.zip
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    15 hours ago

    I personally hate the path that AI is going. Generative ai steals art and scrapes text to create garbage on demand using too much power and computing resources that could be spent on better purposes, such as simulating protein folding for disease research (see folding at home). u/yogthos@lemmy.ml gave some good uses of ai.

    To be honest, I think it’s a severe mistake that AI is continuing to improve, as long as you aren’t gullible and know what to look for, you can tell when something is ai generated, but there are too many people who are easily fooled by ai generated images and videos. When chatpgt released, I thought it was a nice toy, but now that I know the methods of which such large scale models are obtaining their data to train on, I can only resent it. So long as generative models continue to improve in accuracy of text and images, so will my hatred towards it in turn.

    p.s: don’t use the term “AI art” for the love of God. art captures human emotions and experiences, machines can’t understand them, they are only silicon. Only humans can create art, nothing else.

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    19 hours ago

    Most GenAI was trained on material they had no right to train on (including plenty of mine). So I’m doing my small part, and serving known AI agents an infinite maze of garbage. They can fuck right off.

    Now, if we’re talking about real AI, that isn’t just a server park of disguised markov chains in a trenchcoat, neural networks that weren’t trained on stolen data, that’s a whole different story.

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      19 hours ago

      I like to think somewhere researchers are working on actual AI and the AI has already decided that it doesn’t want to read bullshit on the internet

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    19 hours ago

    It’s a glorified crawler that is incredibly inefficient. I don’t use it because I’ve been programmed to be picky about my sources and LLMs haven’t.

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    20 hours ago

    Let me know when we have some real AI to evaluate rather than products labeled as a marketing ploy. Anyone remember when everything had to be called “3D” because it was cool? I missed my chance to get 3D stereo cables.

  • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 hours ago

    Death. Kill 'em all. Butlerian jihad now. Anybody trying to give machines even the illusion of thought is a traitor to humanity. I know this might sound hyperbolic; it’s not. I am not joking rn. I mean it.

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        7 hours ago

        Whatever that means, it sounds based (I’ve been meaning to play Stellaris for ages but haven’t really gotten around to it since the one game I played back in like 2018 when I bought it)

  • brachypelmasmithi@lemm.ee
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    19 hours ago

    Pretty cool technology ruined by greed. If we don’t get this under control (which we won’t probably) we’re in for a pretty interesting age of the Internet, maybe even the last one.

  • Alice@beehaw.org
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    20 hours ago

    Mixed feelings. I decided not to study graphic design because I saw the writing on the wall, so I’m a little salty. I think they can be really useful for cutting back on menial tasks though. For example, I don’t see why people bitch about someone using AI for their cover letter as long as they proofread it afterwards. That seems like the kind of thing you’d want to automate, unlike art and human interaction.

    I think right now I just kind of hate AI because of capitalism. Tech companies are trying to make it sound like they can do so many things they really can’t, and people are falling for it.

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        True, I just assumed that reflection was required in order to give the AI the prompt, and the AI was mainly used to format it correctly. I might be talking out of my ass here since I haven’t used it extensively.

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      19 hours ago

      If it does then we also lose the ability to even say that that’s what it’s done. And if that’s the case then has it really done it? /ponders uselessly