My country is being invaded illegally right now with zero consequences, I know what you are saying. But there should be zero way to profit from war, from an ethical standpoint these industries would ideally be nationalized and kept far far away from profiteers.
I know exactly what “peace” with the apartheid Nazis taking a fresh bite out of my homeland means, I’m not oblivious to that flavor of “pacifism” that gets promoted by the slimiest characters. You’re pushing back against a point I never made. I empathize with a lot of the sentiment supporting Ukraine specifically because I feel like that country’s relationship with Russia is in some ways analogous to our relationship with Hafez and Bashar’s Syria.
Arguably we need the weapons more. The countries controlling the world’s economic and social levers are more than willing to punish Russia, great, but then bend over backwards, and even spit in the face of their commitments to the ICJ, because we’re just in the way of a modern colonial project. I’ll take the guns in a heartbeat. I just believe it’s an unethical thing to privatize, monetize, and eventually promote to keep the numbers going up.
I tend to mostly agree with what you’re saying, but there’s no common theme to our comments. I referred to nothing but the first sentence of your previous comment.
That being said, I’m totally in favor of state armories, like Springfield used to be, but that’s not what we have right now. And never really had in Germany for the past 100+ years. And whether you privatize the manufacture of weapons or not, everyone involved in it needs to make a decent living. R&D needs to be done and financed, either from profit or tax-payer money. In my book the personal enrichment by a select few on the top is bad, no matter the industry. Allowing arms to be exported where they shouldn’t be, is a political “failure”; it’s an indirect subsidy that other states pay for to keep your own supply cheap and running. That’s not an arms manufacturer’s CEO’s fault. He is just a regular CEO asshole, and still would be, if “working” in another industry.
My country is being invaded illegally right now with zero consequences, I know what you are saying. But there should be zero way to profit from war, from an ethical standpoint these industries would ideally be nationalized and kept far far away from profiteers.
I know exactly what “peace” with the apartheid Nazis taking a fresh bite out of my homeland means, I’m not oblivious to that flavor of “pacifism” that gets promoted by the slimiest characters. You’re pushing back against a point I never made. I empathize with a lot of the sentiment supporting Ukraine specifically because I feel like that country’s relationship with Russia is in some ways analogous to our relationship with Hafez and Bashar’s Syria.
Arguably we need the weapons more. The countries controlling the world’s economic and social levers are more than willing to punish Russia, great, but then bend over backwards, and even spit in the face of their commitments to the ICJ, because we’re just in the way of a modern colonial project. I’ll take the guns in a heartbeat. I just believe it’s an unethical thing to privatize, monetize, and eventually promote to keep the numbers going up.
I tend to mostly agree with what you’re saying, but there’s no common theme to our comments. I referred to nothing but the first sentence of your previous comment.
That being said, I’m totally in favor of state armories, like Springfield used to be, but that’s not what we have right now. And never really had in Germany for the past 100+ years. And whether you privatize the manufacture of weapons or not, everyone involved in it needs to make a decent living. R&D needs to be done and financed, either from profit or tax-payer money. In my book the personal enrichment by a select few on the top is bad, no matter the industry. Allowing arms to be exported where they shouldn’t be, is a political “failure”; it’s an indirect subsidy that other states pay for to keep your own supply cheap and running. That’s not an arms manufacturer’s CEO’s fault. He is just a regular CEO asshole, and still would be, if “working” in another industry.