Poor guy was probably just trying to sleep without freezing to death and then these assholes show up.

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    Strange that so many here are ready to forgive Bulldozer Driver for willingly doing their job. Where I live there’s no shortage of people who would happily drive the 'dozer over these “subhumans”. It would make their day to do so. Dominate the hell out of them, up to and including the Final Solution! Judging by what I read in numerous regional forums, the same is true in cities and towns coast-to-coast. If you don’t like a thing, then the solution is to destroy that thing through force and violence. And why not, just look at the subhumans, they deserve what they get, hell they’re almost begging for it, what with their un-American panhandling and dirtiness and unwillingness to work!

    Sure, some people probably hate driving the 'dozer and murdering people, yet (maybe) have few other choices to stay alive themselves. But I think plenty, maybe the majority, do their work because they hate the homeless and feel like heroes when they bring the blade down on them.

    To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions… Ideology—that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.

    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Reminds me of an episode of the X-Files called “Home Again” where a creature called the Trashman was avenging the homeless.

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    I swear bro, one more dozer sweep and we’ll fix homelessness. Please, bro, just one more, we won’t even kill someone this time. I swear bro, we’re so close, just one more $40,000 sweep, it’s got to work this time, come on, bro

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    Friendly reminder it’s cheaper to give homeless people homes, healthcare, and every other basic human necessity than what we are currently doing…

    It’s just the elites know if there was a safety net, a shit ton of people would dive headfirst into it because wealth inequality is that out of whack.

    The threat of being considered subhuman without a job is the only thing keeping a lot of Americans going.

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      The thing is if we give them human needs for free then other people won’t want to work like slaves for human needs.

      If we helped the homeless we would be treating them better than working Americans who waste 5/7ths or more of their lives contributing to this system. And that’s hysterically sad

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      And others would risk a lot for a dream, possibly overtaking these oligarchs in wealth, and that’s too scary for them. They gotta keep those with drive in middle class jobs, getting by and being happy with owning a home instead of taking a risk on a dream.

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      I was wondering that too. But then, this is the kind of person that’s cool with destroying everything people have left at the worst point in their lives so…

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        I know. But it’s like meter maids. Everyone needs to pay bills. Maybe they salivated at the chance or maybe their life is ruined forever with trauma. The problem is we don’t know them at all.

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          How is this comparable to meter maids in any way. They don’t do anything wrong at all.

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        If he didn’t have that job, he’d be on the other end of that bulldozer.

        There are secretaries at UHC.

        There are janitors at maralago.

        These people aren’t the problem.

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            They’re like the Russian soldiers on the front line, who would be shot if they retreated. Dangerous but involuntary.

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                People are not in a position to just walk out of their jobs on the spot. I’m sure the job description didn’t say ‘run homeless people out of their camps’. But if you’re already in a job, then the choice is between doing what you’re told and walking out / not being able to feed your family / losing your apartment / becoming homeless.

                Desperate people do desperate things, and depending which study you read, over 50% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.

                I don’t disagree with your feelings. Keep that righteous anger. I’ve got it too. I’m just saying you need to focus on the affluent who are pushing the desperate to abuse the desolate. They’re the problem to solve.

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        Come on, they most probably had zero choice in the matter… yes, they could have resigned in protest (and in a sense they should have), but we can’t require that people be heroes

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        Please, don’t say stuff like that… I’ve worked jobs where I loathed the company values, but I needed income… One charged more for funerals of “brown” people and had a book on the shelf of the manager’s office that said “The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS”. I’m pansexual and my partner is an immigrant. A job is not a belief. A job is a way to keep a roof over your head until you find a better one

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          Yeah, this is exactly why they keep us poor and without security–so we can’t act according to our morals. Only theirs.

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            Would you have quit if that means you starved? Also your healthcare was immediately ended because it was provided by your job?

            What if you had kids? How do you explain to your child you are not eating today because daddy is a moral person?

            I see your point, and you did good by quitting, but it is not the people to blame here but the system.

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              External circumstances don’t turn an immoral action into a moral one. You can never make up for the harms you do in the world. The circumstances you describe sometimes exist but more often than not, there is a choice, but we lack the courage to acknowledge it even exists.

              If you became disabled, and suddenly you COULDN’T do the immoral job anymore, well by god, you’d likely find a way to survive. So…

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                Or maybe you will not survive, we can play with woulds and shoulds all day here.

                External circumstances don’t turn an immoral action into a moral one

                That depends on your definition of moral action I guess…

                Also we are talking about an accident here, most likely the heavy machine operator doesn’t clear homeless shelters every day, but works on a scrapyard or something.

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              Fair points. Not everyone can upend their life like that. I have certainly suffered greatly for doing what I did. I totally agree that this is a problem with the system.

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                Everyone can upend their life when they genuinely don’t have another choice. People keep doing the thing they know is wrong because they DO have a choice.

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    Seems easy to be evil and want to kill homeless people because you know there’s likely someone passed out that won’t wake up for anything. Just run a bulldozer through a camp and you’re going to get a kill. It’s not like a random worker who doesn’t deal with the homeless will know to check.

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    Guys rule number 1 of the disinformation age… dont meaningfully engage with a post thats only a title and jpeg. Just move on. Demand more of your social media. This is the benefit of an upvote downvote system but it does require our thought and consideration.

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    Is there a single homeless person on earth who is worried about or offended by the term homeless, that we had to make up a whole new term that means the exact same thing?

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      Isn’t that kind of the point of changing a lot of these terms? To get us to think about the people that are excluded from the discourse surrounding them? Even if they don’t prefer to be called unhoused, at least it starts a conversation of, “well what is their preferred terminology?”

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    They shoulda warned the campers that they were coming through so it was understood people would be in mortal danger from machines that can’t see them covered up.

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      Can public authorities in the US kill people without consequence as long as they issued a warning? Like the “freeze or I’ll shoot” from the movies? (asking from the other side of the Atlantic)

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        Sort of. Cops aren’t supposed to shoot people unless they are threatening someone’s safety, but practically they can get away with it in most circumstances quite easily because their judgement is assumed to be correct unless proven false.

        You aren’t supposed to bulldoze people. Full stop.

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        yes but I’m sure there are some restrictions. but yeah cops shoot people in the back all the time and rarely see consequences

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    These people and his superiors do not want to get their hands dirty. That gigantic diesel-powered bulldozer protected the driver from the smell and kept him “clean”.

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      This isn’t the time for jokes. Someone lost their life for being homeless, which is tragic enough on its own.

      I can’t imagine being crushed to death by a bulldozer ““accidentally””.