• youngbullhowling@lemm.ee
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    8 hours ago

    I mean yes. The phrase that followed me through large multimillion dollar sales campaigns is that “people buy from people (they like.)” You can be the best, but if they don’t like who they’re dealing with it doesn’t matter. This is more true on these larger items where you will have high touch after the sale.

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    11 hours ago

    I always liked it when they showed Michael’s incredible sales skills. In a very limited context, he could be an absolute genius.

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      He’s a perfect example of people rising to their level of incompetence. It happens all the time at companies. Just because someone is great at sales, or engineering, or anything else really, doesn’t mean they will make good managers. And most people will never take the demotion back down to the level they are competent at.

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      I completely agree. Michael-as-clown aside his story maps to the Peter principal well enough. Other character’s arcs often have “finding themselves” or “pulling the veil” curves that similarly rise and fall. The context those developments are presented in invites the mind to examine a character’s worth, competence, purpose, self-perception, etc, without forcing one perspective.

      I appreciate that pacing and subtlety. It acknowledges the problem without trying to solve it. That makes sense. The characters can’t solve modern work or its systemic failures. The resulting tension creates space to explore both the scope and fallout of that shared cultural tragedy. The writers do so, in a comedic framework, without neglecting the initial point of intrigue: people dealing with their second families eight hours a day. Coping is subtext.

      Seeing Michael in his element is poignant because of its stark contrast against how we usually see him: a lonely man, lacking common social and emotional tooling, struggling to meaningfully understand and communicate his needs.

      Salesmanship leverages Michael’s competencies on the same fulcrum. He gives what he’s desperate to be given. The gift of being seen, understood, and accommodated. In a word: friendship.

      That’s damn good art.

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        It’s interesting that in typical social situations, he often seems clueless and inept. When he’s given a clear, tangible goal (like sales), his transformation is almost magical but doesn’t feel out of character.

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    12 hours ago

    Not every meeting has to be a sales pitch.

    I had several where vendors would take me to lunch and mention nothing of gear they would sell. It was just a vendor keeping up with us.

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      I despise vendor lunches and turn them down regularly. No free lunch is worth the sales pitch.

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      12 hours ago

      I am so glad I’m not in sales.

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    16 hours ago

    Well, it’s kind of an interesting dichotomy. In one respect, obviously super no. In another, quite possibly yes. The simplest comparison from my own experience I can give is that military units that are close to HQ have to adhere to the rules more due to the likelihood of oversight and accountability. Out in the sticks, not so much. “Joe will do what Joe can get away with.”

    So yeah, a regional manager and his corporate, uh, handler, canoodling after getting the client drunk enough to agree to a sale in small town Pennsylvania; yes. Very yes.

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    when I was purchasing for a lab the account rep asked me if I played golf and I said no in a sorta yelling diatribe saying just get me the best price and have quality goods and deliver it fast. My guess is other folks do play the golf. I mean look at the effing supreme court. I least last millenia we tried to hide that shit.