And what is the evidence for it being a Chinese spying platform? Is it owned by a Chinese company? Is there any hard evidence? Why is it so controversial?

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    No I’m not conflating anything, you’re just moving the goalpost…

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    accountable for data privacy and misinformation/election interference violations.

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    ownership of media and telecommunication infrastructure

    People can still do murder even though its illegal and most murderers are never caught, so we shouldn’t have laws making murder illegal because it doesn’t “solve” murder

    would reduce not eliminate the problem

    🙂 perfect is the enemy of good. I don’t think we’re going to “eliminate” espionage, something that has existed for all of written history…

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      No, you’re conflating privacy and espionage.

      I’m not moving the goal posts. The order for China to divest is about espionage. The ban stemming from their refusal to divest is about espionage. Your privacy law doesn’t solve this problem because it’s not a privacy problem, it’s an espionage problem.

      To take your murder example, it’s like saying ‘I don’t see why everyone’s so worked up about China coming here and shooting people. People get shot here every day and the army doesn’t get involved!’ Despite sharing some details, domestic gun violence and war are different. You’re focusing on the trees and missing the forest.

      🙂 perfect is the enemy of good

      I’m not opposed to your proposed law. I’d support the hell out of it. It would solve other important problems, even if it wouldn’t solve this one. But saying that a country can’t do anything about espionage unless they pass that law is unrealistic.

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          I think banning individual social media services is not the solution. The solution is to create meaningful laws that hold any company, Chinese or American, accountable for data privacy and misinformation/election interference violations.

          You, in a nutshell. You’re saying that they shouldn’t address specific threats. Why not both?