- cross-posted to:
- protonprivacy@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- protonprivacy@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/37218429
When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb
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This comment right here absolutely nails it.
The Republicans have installed a Supreme Court that guts antitrust at every step, and Andy gives them a pass. Anyone that’s that bloody oblivious of how the GOP have spent 25 years trying to remove consumer protections at every turn shouldn’t be managing a popsicle stand, let alone an email service so many rely on to be private.
What a redundant muffin.
Me being too lazy and putting off switching to Proton has paid off!
I cancelled my newly made subscription because of this and asked for the money back, currently theyre trying to stall that by all means.
I went with mailbox.org instead for much cheaper, the setup was really simple, but ive heard great things of other providers as well.
Posteo is another good one, Disroot as well
Oh mailbox seems cool. I’m personally using mxroute.com to host my domain’s email but to be fully honest, I’m still stuck on the Gmail for most things.
I mostly use my person domain email for things like a contact address on my résumé.
I want to switch fully to my personal domain email but mxroute’s web app(s) kind of suck 😅
When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take:
That makes it seem like Andy here just doubled down, but it’s way worse than that. The company released an official statement doubling down on Yen’s stance.
This is bewildering. What a shame.
I had minor gripes with some of their services but Proton has broadly been pretty great in my eyes.
Some CEOs baffle me. Surely, even if they are massive fans of one US political party over the other, they’d have the sense to keep it to themselves to prevent it becoming a thing that causes a fallout with existing/potential customers? But no. They’re too fucking narcissistic for that, and they think everyone wants to hear their opinions and follow them.
Most of the companies/ceos doing this over the past few weeks do know better. That’s why they didnt say anything earlier. The reason they would be publicly taking this stance now is that they either expect to be rewarded by the incoming administration, or they hope to avoid punitive retaliation.
People here need to read about how fascism in Germany and Italy were good for business but terrible for the workers. About how the moneyed interests played a role in the rise of fascism in both as a defense mechanism against unions and socialism.
Cancelled my subscription today. I will be finding an alternative.
I had just signed up a few nights ago to try it out before subscribing, it’s an easy cancel at this point and is being done momentarily.
I had it for a few months. Luckily it was easy to swap out this early on.
Time to find a new option.
an alternative for email or vpn? I’m also in the market for a new email now :/
Im happy with mailbox.org so far!
Email!
VPN I am sticking with Mullvad.
RiseUp.net for both. Disroot.org for email (And other services).
Do you happen to have an invite code for rise up? Seems I need one to register
what the fuck??? literally HOW did he reach that conclusion
Anyone got a email site that won’t shut down or turn fascist?FastMail has been around a long time and they’re very good. MXRoute is good too and lets you have unlimited email addresses at an unlimited number of domains (they only limit it based on storage space)
I moved to mailbox.org due to this, very happy so far. They seem happy being just a mail provider with no aspiration for world domination on the privacy market, and their site layouts shows that with no upsells or similiar.
He hasn’t turned fascist though
I really don’t understand this compulsion people have to publicly announce their political support.
Like, this guy could have just said nothing, literally just not do anything, and he’d be better off.
That’s not how sucking up to fascists works though.
Canceled my sub last night, ported everything to Tuta today. No issues this far.
Super disappointing, but is what it is and I’ll move on.
Support business policies of a group that removes oversight, accountability, responsibility, and makes it so he keeps more money.
What do US domestic politics have to do with a small Swiss company? Is there an indication that Proton would be sanctioned otherwise?
https://www.openbiz.io/blog/15-things-to-know-about-u-s-taxes-for-foreign-companies
- Foreign companies are generally subject to U.S. tax on U.S. source income. This includes income from selling goods or services in the United States, from owning or leasing property in the United States, and from investing in U.S. securities.
So yeah, doing business in the US, getting paid by US people, subjects them to some US regulations. Hence, they are affected by US domestic policy and politics.
Can americans not use credit processors that reside in another country? This sounds like a non issue for proton as long as they dont market to americans.
You expect everyone to do that?
Do what? Enter their credit card info into a webform? Sure, why not?
No, go out of their way to sign up with foreign payment agencies.
Surely that would be on the service, not the customer, no? They would charge a foreign transaction fee, which is annoying, but it can also be avoided by using pretty much any travel card.
Republicans haven’t stood for the little guy for at least….40 years?
Is what he’s saying true? That the antitrust laws he’s referring to were started by trump?
Bro, he’s got Musk as a cabinet member and was put into the spotlight by Murdoch and Thiel, and his Supreme Court gives out handies to any CEO that asks.
If he did anti-trust anything it was either by accident, for revenge against a specific company, or intendes to be used as it was in the 1890’s:
To bust unions.
I was looking to use ProtonVPN but since that story, i would prefer an alternative.
What do you guys use for VPN (i think i saw Mullvad in the replies ?)
Mullvad
I thought they were wonderful. Until they got rid of port forwarding, which is the only reason why I was paying them: as a torrenting VPN.
If you don’t need that feature, Mullvad is still great…they take privacy/security seriously! That’s why they got rid of the feature I used haha.
They’ve also been put to the test and passed IMO:
https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/21/23692580/mullvad-vpn-raid-sweden-police
I use PIA VPN.
It’s a shame I have a year subscription to them. I’ll be cancelling and moving the second it runs outs.
Cancel it now so you dont forget it while it autorenews.
Already did!
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