• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    I think you are mixing up cause and effect. Corporations stopped valuing their employees but expect the same kind of loyalty from when they used to actually pay enough. It’s normal for employees to feel demotivated and give less energy to a job that doesn’t respect them and is over eager to threaten and replace them.

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        You got it backwards though. The root cause is not the change in work ethic. The change in work ethic is the symptom. People have to get nitpicky about breaks and such and show no loyalty entirely because companies stopped being loyal to their employees. This can be demarcated with the death of the pension.

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          I’m not simping for big corporations. They definitely have issues. But how did they get that way? A change in work culture in my opinion. Also, if somebody saved %15 of their pay from the time they’re 18 until they’re ready to retire around the age of 62-65, they would be a multi-millionaire and able to live off monthly payments until they die. Assuming you invested in some mutual funds or something similar. Nothing too risky.

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            Have you ever seen this data?

            https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

            I’m curious what you think of it and how it might come into play with worker/employer relations.

            Look, I have a good job and I am naturally frugal and a saver. I’m not complaining about how this is affecting me, even though it inevitably affects us all. But the data is the data. No amount of “well I think X Y and Z” is going to change the past slope of the numbers.

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              In my opinion? A combination of greed and politicians selling us out. The same old story and history repeating itself. I’m not an expert in this field.

              Personally I think if the government would get out of my way and I wasn’t forced to participate in this bullshit monetary system that’s controlled by a private bank, I’d be much better off. The american people were sold a lie.

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        And not all of this is due to employees, rather, management issues that have gotten worse over time. But I still believe the root cause is a negative change in people’s work ethic.

        Personally I’d say you made the exact opposite clear while throwing a lil blame at the management’s way so it wouldn’t sound as disconnected from reality. Beatings will continue until morale improves I guess.