Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

    • YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 days ago

      I’m sure I’m not the first to note it, but there is a kind of irony in Scott and the gang using such a clear example of a motte-and-bailey argument (got to find a better phrase for that. Maybe some pithy reference to Patton at Calais to maintain the history theme? Inflatable Tank Defense?) in regards to IQ. When talking among friends they treat IQ tests like they are a strong correlate with innate intelligence, no caveats. As such IQ test scores are a reason to ignore environmental factors and not bother investing in equity-minded interventions. But when someone makes the obviously racist conclusion too visible, the argument shifts to be about how actually the correlations between IQ and environmental factors are obvious and really this supports anti racism. It’s a straightforward form of decontextualization that relies on completely ignoring the entire history and contemporary arguments around IQ to defends a single data point. Of course once everyone agrees with that data point they can go right back to the wildly racist nonsense that they were doing in the first place.

    • maol@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      3 days ago

      Only got a paragraph in because of the cheerful citation of aporia (the big Nazi website)

      I love how he goes on and on about how it actually totally makes sense for the average IQ in Malawi to be 60 because most people don’t graduate school, ignoring that Lynn’s methodology wasn’t up to any basic standard

      And by love I mean I fucking hate it

    • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      3 days ago

      oh my god i didn’t catch that this was astro slate star and thought i was reading some overtly racist piece of shit instead of a covert racist piece of shit. i haven’t kept up with him lately but this this seems very fucked up even by scott’s standards.

    • Soyweiser@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      isn’t it racist / dumb to say they have 60 IQ?

      no according to Kirkegaard

      Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (pause to catch breath) uh.

      A well at least the mask is totally off now.

      E: and a thing that has been bothering me, it is quite fucked up for somebody with Scotts education to go along with this argument about disabled people that easily.

      content warning for this paragraph

      (Not that this is the first time he forgets he has an official education, and cant just ignore that (yes im still mad about the time he said “well she had mental health issues and was a liar” or something about the woman who tragically ended her life after accusing parts of the community of sexual abuse, and didnt mention that a reputation like that would increase the risk of abuse)).

        • Soyweiser@awful.systems
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          3 days ago

          That isn’t a bonus. He is always in the comments. <include OkayButThatsWorseYouDoGetHowThatsWorseRight.gif>

            • Soyweiser@awful.systems
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              2 days ago

              It remains one of those small !!fun!! facts that while Marxbro got permad for being annoying and correct about Marx, Sailer only got a temp ban while being wrong, racist but nice (he has been banned at least once, but racists play by the Tusken Raider rules if not permad)

              • froztbyte@awful.systems
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 day ago

                I don’t understand this comment (largely for not knowing where any of these things happened) and since it’s the tail end of a Friday at the tail end of a long and stupid week

                I think that’s okay. I think I’m just not going to ask this once. Just not know a thing, as a bit. It’ll be novel!