I agree the second hit was really bad, but since it was retaliatory refs probably gave it a pass. The first hit would have just been a personal foul if he hasn’t aimed his forearm at the neck/ helmet area. That snap and second bounce off the ground are what caused the ejection. That second bounce was probably what sealed the deal on the concussion.
I guess my eyesight isn’t good enough from the video posted and i can’t pause it to see frame by frame like in would like. It doesn’t appear to me that contact was made on head neck, it looks like it’s made right above the number 16. Fair enough to call it dirty if its more obvious than it is to me that he aimed for the helmet.
I’ll state again though that a hit doesn’t need to be dirty for it to be bad.
First point of contact is the shoulder forearm to the head definitely happened following contact, but contact was going to be made, not sure how it wouldn’t have happened in some form.
Looks a lot worse in some of these new angles and with slow motion. Still think the retaliation was worse. Don’t care how much you are upset retaliation is not a free pass to be also bad
I’m agreeing with you in all counts. It’s football, even good hits get people hurt. I also don’t think the defender was trying to hurt the QB in that play. It’s just how it ended up and the league is definitely trying to make it safer and cracking down.
The retaliation, to me, should have been an ejection as well. Play was stopped and he was defenseless. Those shots to the back can seriously hurt or end careers. Could have giving him whiplash.
IMO it isn’t all about whether you have an explicit intent to hurt someone, rather it’s about using the wrong technique in a situation where you know that someone could get hurt. The defender gets paid a LOT of money to be one of the best at this sport, so there is a reasonable expectation that they will make every attempt to preserve their coworkers’ safety.
I agree the second hit was really bad, but since it was retaliatory refs probably gave it a pass. The first hit would have just been a personal foul if he hasn’t aimed his forearm at the neck/ helmet area. That snap and second bounce off the ground are what caused the ejection. That second bounce was probably what sealed the deal on the concussion.
I guess my eyesight isn’t good enough from the video posted and i can’t pause it to see frame by frame like in would like. It doesn’t appear to me that contact was made on head neck, it looks like it’s made right above the number 16. Fair enough to call it dirty if its more obvious than it is to me that he aimed for the helmet.
I’ll state again though that a hit doesn’t need to be dirty for it to be bad.
Edit: Variety of angles
First point of contact is the shoulder forearm to the head definitely happened following contact, but contact was going to be made, not sure how it wouldn’t have happened in some form.
Looks a lot worse in some of these new angles and with slow motion. Still think the retaliation was worse. Don’t care how much you are upset retaliation is not a free pass to be also bad
I’m agreeing with you in all counts. It’s football, even good hits get people hurt. I also don’t think the defender was trying to hurt the QB in that play. It’s just how it ended up and the league is definitely trying to make it safer and cracking down.
The retaliation, to me, should have been an ejection as well. Play was stopped and he was defenseless. Those shots to the back can seriously hurt or end careers. Could have giving him whiplash.
It may make you happy to learn that the player that retaliated WAS ejected, as well as another Jags player who shoved him.
https://youtu.be/xSAL17ByqII
IMO it isn’t all about whether you have an explicit intent to hurt someone, rather it’s about using the wrong technique in a situation where you know that someone could get hurt. The defender gets paid a LOT of money to be one of the best at this sport, so there is a reasonable expectation that they will make every attempt to preserve their coworkers’ safety.