• inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 month ago

    It’s almost like Americans, especially one of a specific skin tone, are tender snowflakes that like to complain about a lack of jerbs while not actually wanting to work.

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      Sounds a bit racist. You’re insinuating a lot. Where are these people complaining about jobs? Who are they?

      Or maybe some of them who would like a job, but in their area many of those jobs are being taken by individuals who entered America illegally and will work for half as much as the legal citizens?

      But nah, let’s assume they are lazy because of their skin color.

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        We should be punishing companies for paying illegal wages under the table no matter who’s the recipient (documented or not), but instead the undocumented status of the workers is used as pretext to deny them any negotiating power for a raise or better conditions. Until we hold the companies accountable in these situations, they’ll continue to do whatever they can to keep their labor costs down. Unfortunately, farm owners have the money in this situation, so their wishes for cheap labor trump any need for unemployed citizens to have a job :)

        These farm jobs aren’t going to be opened up to Americans for minimum wage. They’re going to be done by the same undocumented people, but as part of immigrant detention labor camps as an extension of the prison industrial complex.

        The reality is that we should be paying a lot more for groceries than we currently are, given that the current system depends on horrendously underpaid and exploitative labor. Good luck making that case to people struggling to pay for groceries.

        edit: slight wording because I suck at proofreading before hitting submit

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          Yes, they should be punished for paying below minimum wage. Regardless of the workers legal status. And they should be punished for employing anyone who isn’t legally allowed to work here. Hit them with a double whammy. Not some bullshit 6 or low 7 figure number.

          We don’t get to pick and choose which laws to follow.

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        1 month ago

        Lol ok how about picking crops in 100 degree heat for a third of federal min wage?

        That’s the job you want?

        Before you type something dumb also consider that Republicans took away the farming subsidies that would allow farmers to pay their laborers a fair wage.

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          I know this may be difficult for you to believe, but there are those who actually like working outside. Now, for what wage is a different discussion.

          Our species is good at adapting. We wouldn’t have made it this far if we weren’t. If those doing the job for a third of the federal minium wage (source needed) were no longer able to, we would be forced to higher citizens for a legal wage (not less than minimum).

          Your comment reads as if you’re in favor or are ok with illegal immigrants being exploited. I certainly hope not.

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            Firstly, no one will want to work in a field for minimum wage either lol

            Secondly, they’re not going to replace paid (albeit lowly paid) immigrant workers with highly (relatively-speaking) paid american citizens. They’re going to replace them with unpaid prison slave labor forces