• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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      11 hours ago

      I was thinking more European countries, since the discussion was, you know, foreign countries hosting US military bases

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        So-called “liberal democracy” works pretty much the exact same way it does in Europe (or anywhere else) as it does in the US.

        Ie, it’s 95% capitalism and 5% fake democracy substitute (the ratios vary slightly but never by much). And, like “liberal democracy” everywhere, the 5% fake democracy substitute will be rapidly replaced with 5% very not-fake fascism if you threaten the 95% capitalism part in any way whatsoever.

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          10 hours ago

          So-called “liberal democracy” works pretty much the exact same way it does in Europe (or anywhere else) as it does in the US.

          Lol no. Much of Europe ranks much higher in all sort of democracy, press freedom etc indexes. Not all liberal democracies are created equal.

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            I’m guessing you’re having a real hard time understanding that there is absolutely NOTHING democratic about so-called “liberal democracy,” eh?

            Why is that? Is the new information clashing with your programming?

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              I mean I’ve voted for a candidates in municipal, health care area, parliamentary and European Parliament elections. Hell, even in church elections. I’ve had friends as candidates, seen stuff get through from a single person’s suggestion through to reality through what I’d call democratic means and action, I’ve worked with different campaigns and parties and have seen change happen through that.

              If that doesn’t count as democratic then not sure what you consider democratic tbh because that’s the stuff I think of when I think of democracy.

              Is the new information clashing with your programming?

              It just seems to clash with the common definition of the word, is all. If democracy isn’t that sort of stuff then I wonder what it is and where you might find it, if anywhere.