My excitement is tempered by two things, the ultra cost being a subscription (I get the “why” I just hate more subscriptions) and also the pretty crappy targeted adverts “consent” whereby you have to scroll through page after page of third party vendors to turn off the “legitimate” interest which is, let’s be honest their way around consent by just ignoring what you want. That’s put me right off in all honesty sorry.
Man, when the Pro lifetime comes out I’m there but at this point I’m not going to engage at all with either being tracked by advertisers or being forced to go through all that. There are other open source apps that don’t do any of that which may not be quite as good but the difference is worth it. Lemmy doesn’t have any ads. Why should I subject myself to ads or being tracked to use what is already free?
Because you know what sync provides and why it’s worth spending money on it. I get these arguments and they are valid but no one forces anyone to use an app. You can just ignore it. I also prefer open source apps and don’t like subscriptions but I bought the Ultra even if I just want to remove the ads. Also the price is not that big so i think of it as a donation.
It’s a nice app, but so is Jerboa, which does not have ads. If there was a one-time ad-free purchase; I would strongly consider it; but I’m not going to pay a subscription to avoid ads on an already ad-free website.
Honestly a third sub option for lifetime wouldn’t have been a timesink. Just like the old version had. I guess it was more of a time waste removing the third option.
The dev don’t want to charge money while the app is still buggy. The subscription option is there for the die hard fans who keep pestering him to let them send their money. If it weren’t for people pestering him, the option to subscribe is probably not even offered right now.
I don’t know. Going by that logic, there should not be any ads in the beta as well as the app is not officially finished. That way people can use and try the app until the official launch and then buy it when the one time ad free purchase options are added without being exposed to our tracked by ads.
This is also the dev that got really hurt over his paying customers not liking when he completely changed the app they paid for under their nose with no option to roll back, and quit pushing updates for a while after that. It was a whole thing.
I’m not paying a dev that can’t handle feedback and has an entire fanclub cheering on literally every single decision.
Haha I was the same and didn’t know what to do with myself when I deleted the other app when the blackouts started. Like I would take my phone out, stare at it for a few seconds and put it away again.
Anyway I found other things to do instead of Reddit, and now I’m wondering if it’s a good idea to get Sync again lol. I’ve done so well!
It’s amazing how many cookie consent banners aren’t compliant. There has to be a button where you can clearly reject all, where it has equal look and feel as accept all. By default all non required cookies must be disabled, but the fact we can turn off the legitimate interest options shows they’re not required, and so they’re not compliant.
Basically every banner should have a reject button that’s just as clear as the accept. I’d you’re going through any extra effort to reject then it’s not compliant.
Then there’s me, who actively went hunting for where I could pay for this app as soon as I opened it
This dev has never been anything but respectful of his community. I have no qualms paying him the equivalent of 2 beers a year for something I have used for multiple hours a day every day for more than a decade. Easy value proposition.
The targeted ads thing I guess I get, but I haven’t had ads on Sync for so long it honestly didn’t really phase me because I planned to buy ad free anyway. Hopefully that bit gets streamlined.
Well, if you need to tell people that, it’s not clear enough and thus breaks the law. I don’t know what it looks like and I can imagine you used a third party to provide it, but for user friendliness it could be a good idea to change it. I doubt you would get into legal trouble though since a lot of websites use this same format, but I always hate it when I see it.
One, I want to support devs making top tier clients for lemmy. Two, this stuff isn’t free to do or maintain, as a dev, I recognize and appreciate that.
If someone comes out with a better client for cheaper, then I’ll switch, otherwise, these terms are acceptable.
Would be good to have both options. Someone prefers to have a subscription to cancel whenever, and someone wants to not think about it anymore after purchasing.
It’s a service, why should you pay once? It’s like water and electricity, ongoing cost needs to be balanced by ongoing revenue. Especially when the utility is also ongoing.
If you prefer paying once, get some dividend ETFs and use the dividends to pay for the service. Yes, it’s expensive, but you can also sell the etf again when you stop using the service.
I get why subscriptions exist but everything right now is trying to push you into a subscription. I really don’t need yet another subscription in my life.
I’m all for paying for Sync but it won’t be via a subscription. Sorry.
My excitement is tempered by two things, the ultra cost being a subscription (I get the “why” I just hate more subscriptions) and also the pretty crappy targeted adverts “consent” whereby you have to scroll through page after page of third party vendors to turn off the “legitimate” interest which is, let’s be honest their way around consent by just ignoring what you want. That’s put me right off in all honesty sorry.
Man, when the Pro lifetime comes out I’m there but at this point I’m not going to engage at all with either being tracked by advertisers or being forced to go through all that. There are other open source apps that don’t do any of that which may not be quite as good but the difference is worth it. Lemmy doesn’t have any ads. Why should I subject myself to ads or being tracked to use what is already free?
Because you know what sync provides and why it’s worth spending money on it. I get these arguments and they are valid but no one forces anyone to use an app. You can just ignore it. I also prefer open source apps and don’t like subscriptions but I bought the Ultra even if I just want to remove the ads. Also the price is not that big so i think of it as a donation.
It’s a nice app, but so is Jerboa, which does not have ads. If there was a one-time ad-free purchase; I would strongly consider it; but I’m not going to pay a subscription to avoid ads on an already ad-free website.
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Glad to hear 👍
Edit image for those who are curious:
It’s out now, and it’s $20. Way too steep of a price for me.
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That makes me nervous for how much he’s going to charge… I paid like $8 for the last one I used on reddit for ten years.
How is it “in the works”? It’s not hard to implement, seeing as how he already did it.
And no timeline when it’s coming just a promise it will?
Sounds more like he just wants to test the waters and see what he can make.
Because he prioritized his time in getting the application usable rather than implementing various tiers of payments instead.
One of the messages to the discord this morning seems to indicate he’s planning on adding the one time ad-free unlock today.
He literally already has all the other tiers of payment, though? You can select “per month” or “per year”, you just don’t have an option for one-time.
Honestly a third sub option for lifetime wouldn’t have been a timesink. Just like the old version had. I guess it was more of a time waste removing the third option.
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The dev don’t want to charge money while the app is still buggy. The subscription option is there for the die hard fans who keep pestering him to let them send their money. If it weren’t for people pestering him, the option to subscribe is probably not even offered right now.
I don’t know. Going by that logic, there should not be any ads in the beta as well as the app is not officially finished. That way people can use and try the app until the official launch and then buy it when the one time ad free purchase options are added without being exposed to our tracked by ads.
Can’t argue with that, I’ll go that route if it were me, but ultimately it’s the app creator’s decision.
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Holy shit y’all are miserable lmao
If it’s not so hard then why aren’t you making your own awesome app in your free time and giving it away without ads?
I believe the developer is working on a one-time payment Pro version that removes ads. Ultra has additional features for a subscription fee.
It’s out now. $20. No thanks.
I bought it. I want to support LJ. He’s doing a great job and really got shafted by reddit.
Yeah I’m sticking with voyager/memmy
This is also the dev that got really hurt over his paying customers not liking when he completely changed the app they paid for under their nose with no option to roll back, and quit pushing updates for a while after that. It was a whole thing.
I’m not paying a dev that can’t handle feedback and has an entire fanclub cheering on literally every single decision.
I like sync and spend most of my phone screen time on it so I’m all for buying lj a case of beer once a year.
Haha I was the same and didn’t know what to do with myself when I deleted the other app when the blackouts started. Like I would take my phone out, stare at it for a few seconds and put it away again.
Anyway I found other things to do instead of Reddit, and now I’m wondering if it’s a good idea to get Sync again lol. I’ve done so well!
idk man 530 TRY is kinda not that small of a donation
yeah it was 185 try in sync for reddit although it was probably last updated when try/usd was 20 or so
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If you use dns.adguard.com you won’t have any ads.
I always have Blokada running on my phone and while it does remove the ads it still leaves behind a large blank space in the feed.
There’s hope - https://github.com/ReVanced/revanced-patches/issues/2724
In case you don’t know, there is a newer version which I’ve been rocking for a while with no notable impact:
dns.adguard-dns.com
What’s the difference? Better blocklist? If yes, why did they not update the old domain?
Who knows!
Well until anyone knows I think I’ll stick with the old one lol
It’s been on their official site for many months!
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Yep is true, I don’t see ads because of that.
Yeah, Sync is a great app but it’s basically subscription or ads+tracking for a really slick UI.
Same, I’m ok with a subscription but I would want it like Sync for Reddit where I pay 5-6-7€ to remove the ads and the rest can stay on Ultra.
Edit: Also the per vendor “legitimate interest” toggle without the option to decline all at once is pretty scummy and also illegal.
And the list is soon loooong
What the heck, I’m glad I found this comment thread to remove the “legitimate interest” from everything, and there are so many!
Where is this toggle?
Main page > Menu > Settings > Privacy > Revoke GDPR permissions
I also don’t see this anywhere… Would love some clues!
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Thanks for having the balls to say this, because yeah, I immediately noticed this.
It’s amazing how many cookie consent banners aren’t compliant. There has to be a button where you can clearly reject all, where it has equal look and feel as accept all. By default all non required cookies must be disabled, but the fact we can turn off the legitimate interest options shows they’re not required, and so they’re not compliant.
Basically every banner should have a reject button that’s just as clear as the accept. I’d you’re going through any extra effort to reject then it’s not compliant.
I always struggle with the bbc’s one… I always lose patience before I’ve ever figured out how to reject all
Then there’s me, who actively went hunting for where I could pay for this app as soon as I opened it
This dev has never been anything but respectful of his community. I have no qualms paying him the equivalent of 2 beers a year for something I have used for multiple hours a day every day for more than a decade. Easy value proposition.
The targeted ads thing I guess I get, but I haven’t had ads on Sync for so long it honestly didn’t really phase me because I planned to buy ad free anyway. Hopefully that bit gets streamlined.
We need a Pro version, ad free, but without a subscription. Ultra should stay ultra.
Clicking X rejects consent from everything.
Well, if you need to tell people that, it’s not clear enough and thus breaks the law. I don’t know what it looks like and I can imagine you used a third party to provide it, but for user friendliness it could be a good idea to change it. I doubt you would get into legal trouble though since a lot of websites use this same format, but I always hate it when I see it.
Theres also the big do not consent button
That will still allow “legitimate interest”.
Not for me, in fact, my one doesn’t seem to save the preferences and I’m not using beta.
Thanks for pointing that out. Big no for me. I shuddered when I saw Facebook mentioned there.
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I bought the yearly subscription.
One, I want to support devs making top tier clients for lemmy. Two, this stuff isn’t free to do or maintain, as a dev, I recognize and appreciate that.
If someone comes out with a better client for cheaper, then I’ll switch, otherwise, these terms are acceptable.
Sure, development isn’t free, but $2 a month per user? That seems excessive for a free website that doesn’t charge an API fee…
And does any of that make it over to the instance hosts? I’m genuinely asking.
Would be good to have both options. Someone prefers to have a subscription to cancel whenever, and someone wants to not think about it anymore after purchasing.
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Ads are blocked if you use something like NextDNS
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When I installed the app I didn’t see any vendor list to turn off ads. This is what my feed looks like
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e9ebe3a8-d6f1-4ef2-b47b-b61fef66fc62.png
(I couldn’t figure out the formatting for hyperlinks, hopefully this works.
I didn’t even notice that at first, because ProtonVPN blocks ads and all that’s left is a blank grey square.
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It’s a service, why should you pay once? It’s like water and electricity, ongoing cost needs to be balanced by ongoing revenue. Especially when the utility is also ongoing.
If you prefer paying once, get some dividend ETFs and use the dividends to pay for the service. Yes, it’s expensive, but you can also sell the etf again when you stop using the service.
One of the dumbest comments I read here.
can you enlighten me?
I get why subscriptions exist but everything right now is trying to push you into a subscription. I really don’t need yet another subscription in my life.
I’m all for paying for Sync but it won’t be via a subscription. Sorry.