• Comment105@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Thoughts and prayers? No. Fines. Potentially jailtime. Potentially forcing them to sell farms and factories.

    But you do not want it. You’re delusional and thinking the animals will just have to endure for a little while longer while you’re working on getting the entire planet to switch to a vegan diet.

    Besides, you need the worst cases to stay around.

    You need to film conversion content, and it’ll have to be fresh and gruesome content to be effective.

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      2 months ago

      Thoughts and prayers? No. Fines. Potentially jailtime. Potentially forcing them to sell farms and factories.

      And how do you intend to implement those things? Thoughts and prayers.

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          Oh, which candidate that supports those things you mentioned were you going to vote for but now aren’t? Love to hear even a single name.

          Of course, you can’t answer that, because that’s not a realistic path in the short term. Let’s say you were going to run for office on that platform. First, the major corporations that have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are are going to dump money into the opposition. Second, people will oppose it because it would increase the price of meat - they’ll say you’re an elitist who wants to make it so that only the rich can have access to it, and emphasize the effect it’ll have on grocery bills. They’ll also talk about the environmental impact your regulations would cause, since it would take more land to treat animals humanely. And they will also call you a hypocrite for refusing to give up meat while calling the production process unethical, to the point of being deserving of jail time.

          So explain to me how exactly you would’ve overcome those obstacles, if only us mean insidious vegans weren’t so preoccupied with asking you to give up your treats.

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                The animal rights movement was genuinely kind of strong until you fucks went hardcore in public the last couple decades, sabotaging it.

                Before that public sentiment was going our way. Now it’s more or less set in stone that humanity will without pause continue abusing animals in truly gruesome ways for at least a few more generations, with a minority vegan population. You’re ignorant of how you shaped the future of these animals, by making animals rights activism far less popular than it was and should’ve stayed you made it significantly easier to disregard animal rights activism as unimportant noise almost nobody will pay attention to… The vegans of the 2000’s and 2010’s should’ve been compensated handsomely by factory farm corporations for all the work they did to make a mockery of animal rights.

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                  Oops, you forgot to answer my question again.

                  Cut the crap. It’s plain as day what’s happening here - you want to discredit the people who are actually doing things in order to make yourself feel better about not doing anything. It’s just a defense mechanism, and the person you’re really trying to fool us yourself.

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                    2 months ago

                    Oops, you forgot to answer my question again.

                    There is no candidate. You’d need to succeed in the democratic process, something your faction’s efforts have prevented.

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                  The gymnastics involved in actively participating in killing and eating animals but calling yourself an animal activist is impressive.

                  I’m guessing you did your own testing to come to the conclusion that the healthiest diet includes meat and dairy, right?

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                    2 months ago

                    And there it is, you practically just asked me to either go vegan or stop giving a shit about animal rights. Because what I am is incompatible with your understanding of animal rights.

                    For all practical purposes, I don’t give that much of a shit. So I’m basically slotting almost entirely into the mould you expect me to; I’m not in the streets shouting or in government buildings appealing that my minority concern should be considered for influencing regulation.

                    I’m instead on the internet talking about my support for it, and why vegans chastising insufficiently committed support for it has reduced support for it … with vegans actively chastising my insufficiently committed support for it.