• Pup Biru@aussie.zone
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    12 hours ago

    name a democrat

    names republicans

    though i’m not an american so idk all your 40 whatever it is presidents but all the ones i recognise there are republicans and im pretty sure that if the ones there are real old then well… it’s a totally different party to what it was? it’s not a team - its politics after all; things change

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      12 hours ago

      I mean his original comment didn’t specify democrat, and in his second comment, I didn’t think it was a worthwhile stipulation. Also, Nixon and Reagan still loom somewhat large over the modern Republican Party, and GWB and the wunderraper are both very recent republican presidents

      Edit: and I mean where he said the worst monster to occupy the White House, that seems to imply all former residents, no? Not just democrats

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        11 hours ago

        I specified genocide, also, like W killed a million Iraqis, but not for love of brown person blood and to replace them with the one subgroup of whites whose supremacy we still accept, and I maintain, Bibi will beat 1 mil. Probably in Gaza alone.

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      11 hours ago

      Yes, the ideology of the parties is always in flux and particularly now. Quick primer – originally you had the Democratic-Republican party and the Federalists, but the Federalists wanted the British to reconquer us in 1812, so they were banned and rebranded as the Whigs (which was what anti-royalists were called during the revolution to help unbrand them as traitors to Britain) meanwhile the Democratic-Republicans fell apart and Andrew Jackson created The Democracy! (Exclamation mark part of the proper name ala Yahoo!) Which held that all white men, even if they don’t currently own land should have the vote, and also that we should Israel-style kill as many of the native inhabitants in as horrible ways as we can. A generation later the Whigs fell apart via Buchanan being Biden-level awful, so the Federalist traitors of 1812 rebranded yet again to The Republican Party, which ironically calls itself the “Grand Old Party” despite being younger than The Democracy! Then there was the Civil War and you probably know most of the rest, but I think the modern GOP is becoming like the democrats of the 70’s, a mix of the religious and workers, and the DNC is becoming like the GOP of the Nixon era, professional autocrats and small business tyrants and social climbing college educateds, but it’s always in flux, which would make more parties clutch, but the duopoly cooperates to prevent that, and always have.