• TwilightKiddy@programming.dev
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        2 months ago

        Caim ends up thinking he saved the world, but actually doomed humans in both timelines.

        Zero was stopping the weed. Not only did she have to murder her “sisters” for that, but she also kind of fucked it up, leading to the events of the first game.

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          2 months ago

          Normally when I think villain, I’m thinking someone were the events of the world would have been better if they didn’t exist. I don’t recall if Caim running off would have made the word a better place. I saw he killed the boss and gave humanity time to start the Gestalt project. Now Nier is totally the villain here. Both versions of himself are dumb dumbs. At the very least Zero tried to clean up the mess cause if she did nothing the world was doomed anyway.

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            2 months ago

            I think it’s pretty safe to assume that without Caim there would be no dragons and flower in the first timeline and no maso in the second one. At least people in the second one would survive until the alien invasion. If they fought back successfully, people in both timelines would survive just fine.

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                2 months ago

                Well, it’s never explicitly stated, but it’s the most convincing theory we have about the origins of Cathedral City and all that came with it.

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                  2 months ago

                  Ah I see. I aways took this at face value since it seemed made up by “The wild Dreams of a deluded child” and devs just went with it.