• doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    112·
    2 months ago

    If I ask you to turn around to the right, are you going to ask me what side of you I’m referencing?

    No, because humans have a pretty clear forward direction. Screws don’t. You say turn a screw to the right, do you mean make the top of the screw move right or the bottom move right?

    Most people assume the top, but not all, and the language is ambiguous.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
      1·
      2 months ago

      Slightly, anyway. If you’re both standing over the thing it can potentially be agreed on. If you’re all over the place working on some big machine you need to use some language, and I’m not aware of a standard way to do it.

    • Zron@lemmy.world
      16·
      2 months ago

      The “front” or “forward” direction of a screw is clearly the face of the fastener itself, be it a hex head, Phillips, or Slotted screw. Picking a side of a face as the front doesn’t make any sense. The whole thing needs to rotate one direction or another, and it will either rotate to the right to tighten, or the left to loosen.

      If I ask you what the front of a clock is, are you going to tell me it’s the top curve near the ceiling? No it’s the face of the clock, and the hands rotate around it to the right.

      • 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        2 months ago

        The “front” or “forward” direction of a screw is clearly the face of the fastener itself, be it a hex head, Phillips, or Slotted screw.

        Correct.

        Picking a side of a face as the front doesn’t make any sense.

        Right. Nobody is talking about the under side of the fastener. Just looking it the face of the fastener, as one does when driving into something.

        The whole thing needs to rotate one direction or another,

        Wrong. A rotating circle rotates in all directions, including right and left, up and down, at the same time. If you attach an arrow perpendicular to the circle, pointing in the direction of rotation, then (if rotating clockwise) the arrow will point right at 0°, down at 90°, left at 180°, and up at 270°

        and it will either rotate to the right to tighten, or the left to loosen.

        You’re talking about the TOP of the rotation. The bottom of the rotation is moving the opposite direction. Just like the right and left sides move in opposite directions.

        Think about a wrench hanging off a fastener, handle pointing to six o’clock. To tighten it (clockwise), does the handle move toward your left or right?

        No it’s the face of the clock, and the hands rotate around it to the right.

        From nine o’clock to three oclock it rotates to the right. From three to nine it rotates to the left.

        The rule for the top of the rotation is “righty tighty”. For the bottom of rotation the rule is “lefty tighty”.

        The “righty tighty” saying doesn’t specify which side of the rotation it’s referencing, which as a kid helping my grandfather in the garage was confusing.