• 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    2 months ago

    I was interested when I heard it was going to be a musical.

    I was turned off when I found it was just licensed music and would not have any original songs. Like… What’s the point of making a musical if you’re not gonna make new songs specifically for the story?

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      2 months ago

      Ahhhh this is the first time hearing it isn’t original music. I took for granted that a musical would have original songs.

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        2 months ago

        The caveat there is Moulin Rouge was a musical to begin with and didn’t have any prior expectations.

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      2 months ago

      The point is Joker escaping into familiar songs to cope with reality.

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        2 months ago

        Should’ve had the point as him escaping to the world of music and have original songs

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      If they can somehow fit pre-existing music into the film, it can be fun to see essentially several high budget musical clips of known songs at once and also a film. Bollywood can be good at this. That is clearly not the case with Joker 2, but if they had made psychological mad sequences with Bonnie and Clyde having killing and crime sprees with psychedelical metal music etc, it could work.

  • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukM
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    Neither Phillips nor Phoenix was even sure about making a sequel and, for a time, contemplated putting on a Broadway show instead, before ultimately committing to the movie and bringing aboard Gaga in a role inspired by the comic book character Harley Quinn. The idea for the sequel came to Phoenix in a dream, and he and Phillips brought the idea to Emmerich, according to sources.

    In the end, some are saying that Joker: Folie à Deux is a very expensive art film. But when asked who the intended audience was, one outside source sums it up this way: “For Joaquin.”

    I’d have loved to be a fly on the wall:

    I don’t want to make a sequel movie to Joker.

    Well wait until you hear this: Joaquin has had a dream…

    Oh dear.

    And they are going to pay you $20M each!

    I’m listening.

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      Oh good Lord I saw your quote here and I thought they were talking about Roland Emmerich for a sec. That would have been wild if he was involved in this film.

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        2 months ago

        I will throw down for emmerich the dude knows how to entertain

        Is it high art? No. But jesus is it a spectacle.

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      In the end, some are saying that Joker: Folie à Deux is a very expensive art film.

      Oh wow, that is exactly what I said to my friends as we left the theater

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      That killed any interest I had in this franchise. The addition of Gaga solidified I wouldn’t be watching this. One of the best psychological, low key dramas of the last decade, so let’s make the sequel a musical and add a trendy pop star into it! Not to mention Gaga is an overrated, overproduced nepo baby. But that’s just my opinion

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    2 months ago

    Box office isn’t everything, not anymore. They’ll make it back in collectible trash they sell to incels

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        2 months ago

        There’s a whole online industry dedicated to making more incels, folks like Jordan Peterson. It’s been depressingly effective.

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          Manufacturing weirdos that are disconnected from reality is straightforward, and the fascists are investing heavily in it because from there, they practically push themselves into voting against their own interests with hate, conspiracism, and memes. Steve Bannon has explicitly stated that this is a core tactic of his.

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    2 months ago

    Interesting that it had no test screening. Would the movie have been savable with reshoots and re-edits?

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      Only if they reshoot the entire film with another script, they practically did a Matrix 4 again, just because a minority of fans of the first film had bad takes they ruined what many normal people loved.

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      Same. It’s not a bad film. It is a fairly logical progression from the first movie. I was actually surprised it wasn’t more fantastical. There were several points where they could have escalated to a city wide musical caper, but they kept it grounded.