Some Apple users say its parental controls aren’t working properly. A CEO who has 4 kids called it ‘frustrating.’::Parents told The Wall Street Journal they have to continuously check their Screen Time settings to ensure their children’s usage is limited.

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      Just going to follow you through the thread to remind you that a person who doesn’t have kids isn’t immediately unknowledgeable about a subject. That’s some parent gatekeeping bullshit so that you, as a parent, don’t have to think critically when being challenged.

      Source: I have kids so apparently they that’s all that matters to you.

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        I can’t tell if you are joking or serious. Do you give surgeons advice on being surgeons? Or is not allowing you to do surgery “surgery gatekeeping”?

        It’s easy to imagine being a perfect parent. Being one, however, is not so easy. Any actual parent knows this. People who don’t have kids don’t know anything about having kids and usually tend to be the ones who think they know the most.

        People who are actually knowledgeable on a topic rarely look at things in such black and white terms when discussing it.

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          No one is suggesting it is black and white, but perhaps you. Everyone here is saying that one should not blindly trust parental controls. I don’t see anyone saying “do away with parental controls.”

          I honestly think you are projecting some polarity on to people that doesn’t exist. Further, your response of “do you have kids?” Isn’t engaging in any meaningful conversation. You are simply seeking to discredit the person you are responding to without discussing any nuance whatsoever. I’m not sure how you think discrediting someone for purely not having kids is not black and white. You are literally saying if someone doesn’t have kids, their opinion and thoughts are irrelevant. That’s pretty black and white thinking if you ask me.

          Edit: well you changed your comment a lot between when I started responding and finished. Again, I have kids so per your standard, I’m qualified to weigh in here. Never mind that your ridiculous straw man argument about surgeons makes no sense. Being a surgeon is a specialized skill. Being a parent is a basic human function that you get zero training on. Trying to equate the two is laughable. You’re not special for doing the one thing that literally every single one of your lineage has done. You don’t get a degree for being a parent. You’re absurd.

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          No one is suggesting it is black and white, but perhaps you. Everyone here is saying that one should not blindly trust parental controls. I don’t see anyone saying “do away with parental controls.”

          I honestly think you are projecting some polarity on to people that doesn’t exist. Further, your response of “do you have kids?” Isn’t engaging in any meaningful conversation. You are simply seeking to discredit the person you are responding to without discussing any nuance whatsoever. I’m not sure how you think discrediting someone for purely not having kids is not black and white. You are literally saying if someone doesn’t have kids, their opinion and thoughts are irrelevant. That’s pretty black and white thinking if you ask me.

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            Now would be a good time to remind you that the comment that you are so vociferously defending is:

            What a hassle. Might actually have to be a present parent in your child’s life.

            The clear implication being that people who use parental controls are not present in their kids’ lives. You really don’t see this hot take as a black and white assesment of the situation? I personally don’t see how it could be more black and white.

            This is the clearest indication of someone who has never tried to balance screen time with the needs of parenting, because anyone who had sincerely attempted to walk this line would know that it’s not as easy as just “being present”. There are plenty of cases where the kids need access to technology without it taking over their lives. I would posit that any parent who could take such a hot take seriously is probably a shit parent who never actually tried walking this fine line.

            And if you think that someone who has 0 experience in something as difficult as parenting is equally qualified as someone with decades of experience, you must either not be a parent or be a terrible one. Because I’m a far better parent now than I was 20 years ago, and anyone who had gone through this without getting better probably was never trying very hard to begin with.

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              Actually, you have been all over this thread with the same commentary so it’s not just this thread that we are conversing. If you want to be a purist about it, I kind of agree with the comment. I see way, way too many parents who are not present and just hand their kids technology because it is easier. Are you telling me you do that think parents like that exist? I didn’t say you were that parent, no one did, but as a general comment, I agree with it.

              Look dude, I get it, your an IT professional and parental controls are right up your ally. It is one way to approach the problem, but it is not the only way. Everyone is simply saying it’s an insufficient approach to handling the whole situation due to the complexities you acknowledge.

              If you ask me, you took a random internet comment way too personally. It wasn’t directed at you, but you clearly interpreted it that way. There absolutely are plenty of parents who are not present. The comment was directed at them. If you are not that, go ahead and walk away from the snarky internet comment.

              Of course you’re a better parent with experience. No one suggested otherwise. You’re not a brain surgeon though and I’m not going to pat you on the back for procreating and figuring out how to raise your kids. You really want people to praise you for doing a basic human function. When your kid wins a Nobel prize, maybe I’ll pat you on the back. I’m going to assume that like most of us, you’re average, you’re kids are average and that’s all cool. Not going to pat you on the back for existing.

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      Whether or not I do, they won’t be “raised” by slipping into a YouTube Kids coma 24/7 unsupervised.

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        Ah yes, spoken with the surety and confidence of someone who has never navigated the waters of raising kids in the modern world. It must be nice to live in a perfect world inside your own mind.

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          It sounds like you think that you know a lot about me. Please tell me more.

          It’s definitely not a self report to be defensive when no one said anything specifically about you before losing your shit and taking things personally.