With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.

"How has Stein fared as a leader? By AOC’s perfectly reasonable standard, she’s done abysmally. As of July 2024, a mere 143 officeholders in the United States are affiliated with the Green Party. None of them are in statewide or federal offices. In fact, no Green Party candidate has ever won federal office. And Stein’s reign has been a period of indisputable decline, during which time the party’s membership—which peaked in 2004 at 319,000 registered members—has fallen to 234,000 today.

This meager coalition can’t possibly kick-start a legitimate political movement, capable of organizing voters and advancing ideas outside of perennial electoral events. It’s just large enough, however, to spoil the work of those who put in this kind of work."

  • pooperNickel@lemm.ee
    11·
    18 小时前

    Quite conspiratorial to think I’m that other person… do you do that? Why would you even think that people would go through the trouble? Weird.

    I will point out any speech that is a dog whistle to eroding our rights, though.

    More conspiratorial thinking. in any case it’s pretty ridiculous to try and tell someone they shouldn’t inform people about third parties because they might get their feelings hurt and then… Feel unable to vote or something?

    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      17 小时前

      I already explained that you speak and type the same. No, that’s not something I do, but that’s something you seem to do. Based on you doing it.

      I quoted the speech you engaged in exactly as it relates to anti-democracy speech and dog whistles.

      I’m not engaging in conspiratorial thinking, that’s not what that is. Conspiratorial thinkers are known for:

      displaying a deep skepticism that who one votes for really matters.

      Gee, I think that voting really counts. Conspiratorial thinkers believe that voting is pointless. I also think people should run for office and use their rights and communicate with their government. I am not antigovernment. Wild, it’s like you’re wrong and you think that conspiratorial thinking just means suspecting anyone of being hostile. Lol.

      I’m so tired of fascists.

      • pooperNickel@lemm.ee
        1·
        3 小时前

        I’m so tired of fascists.

        Absurd thing to think from what I’ve written. I’m so tired of people defending garbage ideas. And no I don’t mean right to vote. The only people attacking that are republicans. The garbage idea in question is defending third party voters who refuse to be educated in a basic way.

      • pooperNickel@lemm.ee
        1·
        12 小时前

        Yikes, yeah you’re just as wrong about this as you were about the things you’re being criticized for in the first place.

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          8 小时前

          OK. Agree to disagree.

          https://youtu.be/VbFmicUTb_k?si=KWic5pGj9STRmw4j

          https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/04/12/specials/johnson-rightsadd.html

          Our fathers believed that if this noble view of the rights of man was to flourish it must be rooted in democracy. The most basic right of all was the right to choose your own leaders.

          The history of this country in large measure is the history of expansion of that right to all of our people. Many of the issues of civil rights are very complex and most difficult. But about this there can and should be no argument:

          #every American citizen must have an equal right to vote.

          • pooperNickel@lemm.ee
            1·
            3 小时前

            No one here is trying to take anyone’s rights away. The other person commenting that they prefer more informed votes to uninformed votes doesn’t even begin to border on removing anyone’s rights, nor is it a “dog whistle” for anything. It’s patently ridiculous. As is the assertion that I am an their alt. Seriously, I write like them? They wrote long detailed responses to your bluster, I’m simply dismissing you on the grounds that your idea is so ridiculous it’s not worth actually engaging in, clearly since no matter what the dude wrote you took away something weird and persecution-y from it. Us both using spellcheck and capital letters doesn’t make us the same person. What reason would anyone have to care so deeply about what you wrote to switch accounts and pretend to be someone else? Even if it looked like we wrote exactly the same (we definitely don’t), that still shouldn’t be your first assumption. Yet it was, and that’s delusional.

    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      18 小时前

      https://youtu.be/VbFmicUTb_k?si=KWic5pGj9STRmw4j

      https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/04/12/specials/johnson-rightsadd.html

      For, with a country as with a person, “What is man profited if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”

      “All men are created equal.” “Government by consent of the governed.” “Give me liberty or give me death.”

      And those are not just clever words, and those are not just empty theories.

      In their name Americans have fought and died for two centuries and tonight around the world they stand there as guardians of our liberty risking their lives.

      Those words are promised to every citizen that he shall share in the dignity of man. This dignity cannot be found in a man’s possessions. It cannot be found in his power or in his position. It really rests on his right to be treated as a man equal in opportunity to all others.

      It says that he shall share in freedom. He shall choose his leaders, educate his children, provide for his family according to his ability and his merits as a human being.

      To apply any other test, to deny a man his hopes because of his color or race or his religion or the place of his birth is not only to do injustice. It is to deny America and to dishonor the dead who gave their lives for American freedom.

      Our fathers believed that if this noble view of the rights of man was to flourish it must be rooted in democracy. The most basic right of all was the right to choose your own leaders.

      The history of this country in large measure is the history of expansion of that right to all of our people. Many of the issues of civil rights are very complex and most difficult. But about this there can and should be no argument:

      every American citizen must have an equal right to vote.